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Mel Martinez Defends Gonzalez in Spanish on Senate Floor
St. Petersburg Times ^ | February 3, 2005 | WES ALLISON

Posted on 02/03/2005 9:25:35 AM PST by kjfpolitical

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To: JohnnyZ
Or do you not think communicating a message to Spanish speakers should be allowed?

But what about the viewers who only speak German, or Vietnamese, or Italian, or Russian, or Portugese, or Korean, or Turkish, etc. Perhaps Martinez's speech should have been translated into dozens of other languages so as to not let anybody who was watching the speech feel that they were being disregarded or discriminated against just because they don't understand Spanish.

161 posted on 02/03/2005 1:49:21 PM PST by judgeandjury
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To: cookcounty

That is the bright side to all of this. There are far more votes to be gained among Hispancis that will be lost among the Malkinbots.


162 posted on 02/03/2005 1:50:06 PM PST by hchutch (A pro-artificial turf, pro-designated hitter baseball fan.)
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To: Howlin

Post back to me if you wish to respond to my inquiry to you about Gonzales' stand on immigration. Otherwise, please give it a rest.


163 posted on 02/03/2005 1:51:08 PM PST by reelfoot
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To: JohnnyZ

If you are looking for something 'dignified' then the Senate might be the wrong place to look ... seen a Ted Kennedy speech recently?

My beef here is with the same cabal of prigs that immediately start in with the "Tancrediots won't like this" nonsense. There are about 7 extremely self-righteous FReepers who throw around the words 'racist' and 'xenophobe' any time someone argues in favor of law or tradition ...


164 posted on 02/03/2005 1:51:19 PM PST by spodefly (Yo, homey ... Is that my briefcase?)
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To: sully777

If this were a Democratic Senator giving a speech in Spanish, I doubt there would be a single freeper defending him (or her, if it were Hillary). I know I wouldn't. This nation's language is English. People who insist on being hyphenated Americans don't help themselves or the rest of us. Martinez may have an R after his name, but that's not going to stop me from protesting this move toward the multilingual (and cultural) chaos that the Left is longing for.


165 posted on 02/03/2005 1:53:55 PM PST by churchillbuff
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To: Betis70

Thanks for your post #154 showing the AG's authority to extend over the Executive Office for Immigration Review. Is it your belief that Gonzales will support the expulsion of illegal aliens from our country?


166 posted on 02/03/2005 1:55:34 PM PST by reelfoot
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To: kjfpolitical
"More importantly, this will drive the Democrats nuts! I was told THEIR new hispanic-american senator (Ken Salazar) doesn't speak spanish very well.

Martinez should challenge Salazar to a debate on Univision. They could argue about abortion, gay marriage, social security, Hugo Chavez, Fidel Castro and school vouchers.

167 posted on 02/03/2005 1:56:09 PM PST by cookcounty (LooneyLibLine: "The ONLY reason for Operation Iraqi FREEDOM was WMD!!" (repeat til brain is numb))
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To: judgeandjury
But what about the viewers who only speak German, or Vietnamese, or Italian, or Russian, or Portugese, or Korean, or Turkish, etc.

See 148. If a Senator wanted to use his speech to address them from the Senate floor in their first (or only) language, that's fine with me. I think it's nice that someone would think to give that attention from time to time.

168 posted on 02/03/2005 1:56:31 PM PST by JohnnyZ ("Thought I was having trouble with my adding. It's all right now." - Clint Eastwood)
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To: You Dirty Rats

If he were a Democrat, and gave a speech in Spanish, I wager you'd be pounding him. We shouldn't operate by a double standard that says it's OK for Republicans to pander to the groups that want to fragment this society and undermine our cultural cohesion.


169 posted on 02/03/2005 1:56:53 PM PST by churchillbuff
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To: reelfoot

I'll put you down as NOT WILLING to respond.


170 posted on 02/03/2005 1:57:03 PM PST by Howlin (It's a great day to be an American -- and a Bush Republican!!!!)
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To: Howlin

Put me down as responding that a candidate receiving the endorsement of La Raza is not likely to be a strong border security advocate.


171 posted on 02/03/2005 1:58:28 PM PST by reelfoot
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To: judgeandjury

He wasn't speaking to us Anglos. He was subtly letting the Hispanic community know which party considers each citizen upon his or her own merit and which party considers each Hispanic to be a member of a serville class, to be hired as house servants but who should never present themselves to the United States Senate.


172 posted on 02/03/2005 2:00:47 PM PST by Mr. Lucky
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To: spodefly
If you are looking for something 'dignified' then the Senate might be the wrong place to look ... seen a Ted Kennedy speech recently?

Or Box-O-Rox - Or Reid - Or Biden - Or Kerry - Or some of those other Ciceros on the 'Rat side of the aisle. They are a disgrace to the Senate -- the whole stinking lot of them!

It has to be killing some of those 'Rats that the first speech in the Senate given in Spanish was by a Republican. They think "all your minorities are belong to us". The difference between us and the 'Rats is -- we don't see them as minorities, we see them as Americans. In fact, we've had US Military personnel end up as KIAs that we not even American Citizens -- and many of them were Spanish-speaking, as is my Venezuelan-native US Naturalized Citizen stepmother, who takes care of my ill father -- a former Marine. So, VIVA MEL -- VIVA BUSH -- VIVA Jeb in 2008!

173 posted on 02/03/2005 2:00:51 PM PST by You Dirty Rats (Mindless BushBot)
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To: reelfoot

With every posts, you should your ignorance of the facts and the way the government works. Keep it up.


174 posted on 02/03/2005 2:05:02 PM PST by Howlin (It's a great day to be an American -- and a Bush Republican!!!!)
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To: reelfoot

>>the AG's authority to extend over the Executive Office for Immigration Review. Is it your belief that Gonzales will support the expulsion of illegal aliens from our country?

I don't know enough about that office. Do they deal with deporting illegals? I always thought that was the duty of the (old) INS, which I think is called the USCIS now. But that duty might have changed in the DHS creation for all I know

But to answer your question, I really have no idea what Gonzales would support. I suspect he would follow President Bush's lead.


175 posted on 02/03/2005 2:06:54 PM PST by Betis70 (I'm only Left Wing when I play hockey)
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To: churchillbuff

Nonsense. Churchill gave a speech in French from the basement of the Annexe during the Blitz -- to the French. I personally don't care about the language -- what I care about is what the person has to say. Ich habe keine problem, und Sie?


176 posted on 02/03/2005 2:07:12 PM PST by You Dirty Rats (Mindless BushBot)
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To: Betis70

Thanks for your reply. I, too, suspect he will follow Pres. Bush's lead on the immigration issue. That's what worries me.


177 posted on 02/03/2005 2:09:01 PM PST by reelfoot
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To: sully777

Good post. Thank you.


178 posted on 02/03/2005 2:10:46 PM PST by k2blader (It is neither compassionate nor conservative to support the expansion of socialism.)
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To: Howlin

"With every posts, you should your ignorance of the facts and the way the government works. Keep it up."

Howlin, has anyone ever told you that, besides being a very bad speller, you don't answer direct questions very well?

Does Gonzales support taking appropriate measures to end the flood of illegal immigration from Latin America?


179 posted on 02/03/2005 2:12:02 PM PST by reelfoot
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To: kjfpolitical
"Judge Gonzales is one of us," he said in Spanish. "He represents all of our hopes and dreams for our children. Let us acknowledge the importance of this moment, for especially our youth.

Sorry.

This is NOT a good sign for the Republic.

180 posted on 02/03/2005 2:12:43 PM PST by F16Fighter
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