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Dick Morris: Hill Sells Out
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Posted on 01/31/2005 5:31:10 PM PST by Nascardude

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To: Dog Gone

Just found this in an online encyclopedia:
From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia.
In the context of the French Revolution, a Jacobin originally meant a member of the Jacobin Club (1789-1794). But even while the Club still existed, the name of Jacobins had been popularly applied to all promulgators of extreme revolutionary opinions. Nowadays, in France this term refers to a centralistic conception of Republic, with all powers concentrated in Paris.

In this sense the word passed beyond the borders of France and long survived the Revolution. Canning's paper, The Anti-Jacobin, directed against the English Radicals, consecrated its use in England; and in the correspondence of Metternich and other leaders of the repressive policy which followed the second fall of Napoleon in 1815, Jacobin is the term commonly applied to anyone with Liberal tendencies, even to so august a personage as the emperor Alexander I of Russia.

The English who supported the French Revolution during its early stages (or even throughout), were early known as Jacobins. These included the young Samuel Taylor Coleridge, William Wordsworth, and others prior to their disillusionment at the outbreak of The Terror. Others, such as William Hazlitt and Thomas Paine remained idealistic about the Revolution. Much detail on English Jacobinism is to be found in E. P. Thompson's The Making of the English Working Class.

The Anti-Jacobin was planned by George Canning when he was Under-Secretary of State for Foreign Affairs. He secured the collaboration of George Ellis, John Hookham Frere, William Gifford, and some others. William Gifford was appointed working editor. The first number appeared on November 20, 1797, with a notice that "the publication would be continued every Monday during the sitting of Parliament". A volume of the best pieces, entitled The Poetry of the Anti-Jacobin, was published in 1800. It is almost impossible to apportion accurately the various pieces to their respective authors, though more than one attempt has been made so to do.

Jacobinism is not related to Jacobitism or the English Jacobean period.


21 posted on 01/31/2005 6:08:48 PM PST by Captain Peter Blood
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To: Nascardude

Like it or not we are going to see the Hillary is a moderate act in a newly contrived scene every week until the 08 elections.

Today she tried to show she was a woman by fainting.

Last week she gave a speech to a bunch of communist pinkos and declared that she is pro life. There were actual gasps in the audience with some of her declarations.

Ad nauseum.

There is plenty of time for an Arkancide. If Dean takes the post he is a dead man.

In the meantime Dean and the party minions will only make Hillary look more and more moderate. She will, over time, give the impression that she is just not a part of that kooky bunch of radicals.

And when the time is right, Dean will be memorialized in a plane crash and Hillary will come rushing in to claim her rightful spot as the new moderate voice of both the Americans she needs to win with and the balance of her base which is all leftist whackos.


22 posted on 01/31/2005 6:13:10 PM PST by Pylot
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To: Captain Peter Blood
That must be what he refers to.

Thanks.

It just doesn't do any good to attempt to communicate in language that your intended audience doesn't understand. That's a very basic concept, and one that is lost on most columnists. They can use terms and concepts, and often do, that are unfamiliar to their audience. And I think they do this often to impart a sense of superiority.

I dunno. I think the goal of communication is to communicate to as wide an audience as possible. That doesn't mean that the words should be dumbed down. It means that the average person shouldn't be left wondering, "what the heck did he mean?".

23 posted on 01/31/2005 6:18:38 PM PST by Dog Gone
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To: Howlin

yes, ma'am!

i don't know what energized them. a class on the university campus, or what.

bumper stickers, people running around yelling, and honking horns to draw attention to their man dean.


24 posted on 01/31/2005 6:18:41 PM PST by ken21 (baba boxer + ted kennedy = nuf 2 make u wanna puke)
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To: Malesherbes
And Jimmy Carter, while pretending to be a good old Southern peanut farmer, turned out to be one of the "crazies."

Come on....Dick Morris has been very critical of both parties whenever the need rises.

In context, Carter did win the Presidency...that's all Morris is saying.

Of course Carter couldn't win today. If Perot were a figment of our imagination, Clinton wouldn't have won either.

Morris is not our enemy.

And one more thing...what's wrong with sucking on a lady's pedicured toes? ;^)

25 posted on 01/31/2005 6:21:16 PM PST by DCPatriot (I don't do politically correct very well either.)
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To: ken21

Oh....I would hate that. Too tacky!


26 posted on 01/31/2005 6:22:51 PM PST by Howlin (It's a great day to be an American -- and a Bush Republican!!!!)
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To: ken21; Howlin
I think it has something to do with their general idea of PR...how else do you explain the vulgar signs and giant, scary puppets at their rallies and demonstrations? For some reason they think stuff like this changes peoples' minds and gives them more converts.

When it is pointed out to them that they are alientating people and driving potential voters away, they insult and mock those they drove away, alienating even more people.

I frankly don't understand this mode of thinking. One would think people in politics would want pepople to LIKE them.

Morris's referrence to the Jacobins was correct, but unfortunately not a widely understood reference. Most Americans would understand a referrence to Robepierre or possibly Marat.

27 posted on 01/31/2005 6:30:00 PM PST by Miss Marple
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To: Howlin; Miss Marple
yeah, it is tacky. to say the least.

i remember a woman shouting something in support of howard dean while she was standing in line at albertsons supermarket.

When it is pointed out to them that they are alientating people and driving potential voters away, they insult and mock those they drove away, alienating even more people.

that's exactly what happened at the supermarket. people were alienated.

28 posted on 01/31/2005 6:37:35 PM PST by ken21 (baba boxer + ted kennedy = nuf 2 make u wanna puke)
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To: ken21
Which is why I do not ear the rise of the nut-case left. Pretty soon the few normal people in the Rat party will come over to our side if for no other reason than that we are not unpleasant and embarassing.

Look at the people the democrats put on as spokespeople. Most are belligerent and unpleasant.

And right now, I am seeing the same technique in the spokeperson for the Jackson family on Fox. It is counterproductive.

29 posted on 01/31/2005 6:54:46 PM PST by Miss Marple
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To: Nascardude
There is a school of thought among Democrats that by embracing policies and programs deeply at variance with what most Americans think will enhance the party's electoral viability.

What kind of logic is that?
30 posted on 01/31/2005 7:00:58 PM PST by uncitizen
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To: Nascardude

Morris is an interesting read, but he's so blinded by his hatred of the clintons that he's not reliable


31 posted on 01/31/2005 7:03:47 PM PST by ozzymandus
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To: Pylot
Like it or not we are going to see the Hillary is a moderate act in a newly contrived scene every week until the 08 elections

The thing that drives me nuts is that conservatives who should know better, like Hannity and Bennett and Ingraham, are repeating ad naseum their take that Hillary has "moved to the center, moved to the center, moved to the center."

Instead of mocking the move and playing audio clips showing her to be a phony, they are simply reinforcing a falsity in the minds of listeners by saying she has "moved to the center."

With one simple Google search, I can come up with two dozen quotes in which Hillary vows to forever support anytime, anywhere abortionists.

As for immigration, Hillary has also accused those who want to reduce or control illegals of being racists of the highest order.

Instead of accepting Hillary's charade, conservative commentators should be mocking her with all the gusto of a Saturday Night Live skit.

32 posted on 01/31/2005 7:07:02 PM PST by Edit35
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To: MojoWire

You make an interesting point.

The level that a person will stoop to in order to preserve their "schtick" is beneath the ability of most decent humans to contemplate.

I think that Hannity and all of them just play the game for money. If they did not preserve their counterparts what would they talk about?

The saddest part of it all is the inability of so many who listen and or watch to make a truly independant decision.

Now lots of Americans are already saying to themselves that Hillary is not so bad. And her continued behavior will re enforce their view until, like kerry, she becomes a viable alternative to the other side.


33 posted on 01/31/2005 7:21:35 PM PST by Pylot
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To: Nascardude

Dear Dick,
For the good of the country, SHUT THE F$$% UP~!!!
He is right, as usual- but dont help the democraps!


34 posted on 01/31/2005 7:50:21 PM PST by Mr. K
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To: Miss Marple
and right now, I am seeing the same technique in the spokeperson for the Jackson family on Fox. It is counterproductive

Someone in the Jackson camp believes volume and rudeness trumps reasoning and must have instructed their spokesmen to attack anyone who questions the possibility of strong evidence against MJ. The spokesperson for the Jackson Family is a pit bull who believes rudeness and interrupting the opposing side will sway the audience and even Catherine Crier seemed beside herself tonight.

Raymone K. Bain, spokesperson for MJ, who appeared on LKL tonight, won't last the month. She denied that MJ was in "high spirits" and questioned who had the audacity to make such a claim during these trying times. Won't she be embarrassed to learn that earlier in the day SHE had the audacity to tell an AP reporter: "On Monday, Jackson spokeswoman Raymone K. Bain said the pop star's "spirits are great," and shot down rumors that he had been suicidal..

And when all else fails, we find Joe Jackson and Leo Terrell trying to convince us that racism plays a role in this. God help us endure the circus.

35 posted on 01/31/2005 8:27:57 PM PST by StarFan
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