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crosswalk ^ | 2004 | creationist

Posted on 01/28/2005 4:28:41 PM PST by metacognative

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To: Timmy

BTTT


421 posted on 01/29/2005 6:47:47 PM PST by 185JHP ( "The thing thou purposest shall come to pass: And over all thy ways the light shall shine.")
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To: Ichneumon

Good thing there's no intelligent design in that algorithm.
Otherwise people would see you don't know what you're talking about.


422 posted on 01/29/2005 6:49:45 PM PST by metacognative (follow the gravy...)
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To: 2AtHomeMom
"Our concepts of time are obviously not time itself, but something else...

Science is restricted to reality. If you abandon reality, truth, logic and science no longer apply.

"...time is a dimension, yet we do not thereby say what time is;

Time is identified by observation to be one of the dimensions of this universe. Just as length dimensions quantify spacial extent, time quantifies the extent, or length, of existence in this universe. It is a measure of length for real things. Hawking agrees with this.

" we cannot say any better what a dimension truly is."

It's precisely defined, just as length is.

"We only know that's an apple because we have a very good theory about apples."

There is no theory of apples. That a thing is an apple, comes by description that differentiates it from other things.

"When we accept Hawking's presupposition, we can calmly approach the opponent comparing how well each theory matches the universe."

I know what Hawking does, but have no clue what his presupposiiton is. The is science, so it is restricted to that. Handwaving to support claims and appealing to the present limits of knowledge and understanding to support handwaiving, does not amount to science.

423 posted on 01/29/2005 6:53:57 PM PST by spunkets
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To: 2AtHomeMom
Balrog, I didn't say that both sides had research, only claims.

It would be extremely useful if the proponents of ID would simply explain what those claims are and how they could be tested.

425 posted on 01/29/2005 6:56:18 PM PST by RightWingNilla
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To: RightWingNilla
My friend, this is your world I am trying to understand here.

Its it simple. You know what you know by examining evidence. All evidence is witnesses. You accept witness statements based on your own criteria.

First youre telling me all knowledge is based on eyewitness accounts.

Yes, either others or the witness of your own senses

Then, no one can trust their senses and therefore no knowledge is possible.I never said that. You did.

Finally, you admit at "some point" we can trust our senses.

Our individual thresholds for accepting witnesses is differs for each person. Some would vote OJ is guilty and some won't.

426 posted on 01/29/2005 6:57:09 PM PST by Raycpa
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To: spunkets
Science is restricted to reality. If you abandon reality, truth, logic and science no longer apply.

This should be endlessly repeated to the wannabe Humean skeptics on these threads.

427 posted on 01/29/2005 6:57:29 PM PST by RightWingNilla
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To: Raycpa
Yes, either others or the witness of your own senses

This is all you had to say 100 posts ago. Then there would have been no room for any misunderstanding.

428 posted on 01/29/2005 6:59:50 PM PST by RightWingNilla
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To: WildTurkey
People went to Jonestown. Would you have followed his witness?

No. He contradicted thousands of years of witnesses before him.

429 posted on 01/29/2005 7:01:30 PM PST by Raycpa
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To: RightWingNilla

It is what I said. You just tried to see something else.


431 posted on 01/29/2005 7:02:07 PM PST by Raycpa
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To: Finny
"It challenges the assumptions of men who presume to tell the rest of us how God does and does not work His miracles."

God told us how He did it in the Bible. Evolution and the Bible are incompatible.

JM
432 posted on 01/29/2005 7:03:43 PM PST by JohnnyM
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To: jwalsh07

I'm thinking of Dirac's takes on things otherwise thought constant. See for example http://www.fdavidpeat.com/interviews/dirac.htm


433 posted on 01/29/2005 7:04:21 PM PST by bvw
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To: Raycpa
No. He contradicted thousands of years of witnesses before him.

So did Moses.

If fact Jesus contradicted the established witnesses of that day.

434 posted on 01/29/2005 7:07:53 PM PST by WildTurkey (When will CBS Retract and Apologize?)
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To: 2AtHomeMom
"I recognize that evolutionists have different epistemologies..."

They must be the same, but go ahead...

435 posted on 01/29/2005 7:11:13 PM PST by spunkets
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To: jwalsh07
News note: A middle age man finds the big bang theory resonants with him. The fountain of youth is just one leap of faith away. Just do it.

By the way, in high school, I wrote a paper about various theories of the creation of the universe, when there were several competing theories (unlike now, when BB is rather accepted), and opined that the Big Bang theory was the most persuasive to me. Of course I got the highest grade possible for such a clairvoyant essay. Of course.

Cheers.

437 posted on 01/29/2005 7:26:56 PM PST by Torie
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To: jwalsh07
Albert Einstein introduced a cosmological constant into his general relativity equation because of his biases against a personal God.

Evidence for this assertion? I think you just made this up. Einsteins papers and other writings indicate that he wanted a solution that was static. After discussions with Hubble, Einstein accepted an expanding universe.

439 posted on 01/29/2005 7:41:15 PM PST by Doctor Stochastic (Vegetabilisch = chaotisch is der Charakter der Modernen. - Friedrich Schlegel)
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To: Doctor Stochastic

I think Einstein wanted a stable universe, along with a grand unified theory. He did not like instability. But I am ignorant amateur hour on this one.


440 posted on 01/29/2005 7:44:53 PM PST by Torie
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