Posted on 01/27/2005 5:17:39 PM PST by NativeTexun
Yes --- it would be absurd to get tattoos to be a little different when it's just about following the crowd. The real reason -- everyone else has them.
Friends express disbelief during court proceeding:
http://www.qctimes.com/internal.php?story_id=1044794&l=1&t=Local+News&c=2,1044794
Pretty shocking when she obviously did not believe her victim had that same right.
Kolb is a common Jewish name. I had several college classmates with that name. They grew up mainly in the Chicago suburbs.
Please refer to Wideeye's post #231. He's not been up to speed with all the info about the case, but he did bring in some other info that we possibly would not have found otherwise.
This scenario sounds like something straight out of Law & Order: SVU.
It's really demonic. Goths open themselves up to demon activity by their obsession with death and satan. he wants to destroy this generation in particularly because this is the generation that will usher in the Kingdom of God and be a vital part of the ingathering of souls in the final revival before He returns. satan always tries to destroy children when God starts to move in them.
'Kolb' is a Germanic name. Possibly refers to a hairstyle. Then there's 'Colby', a town in Wisconsin, named for the Colby family & home of the famous Colby cheese.
I was joking. Making fun of the Freepers who turn EVERYTHING into an immigration issue.
what? my change of thinking?
let me state it simply: i never defended the act of murder or said either sarah or cory were innocent. i said the quick judgments of the people who did not know her and judged her because an article (probably written by an uninformed conservative news reporter, per usual) was wrong and unfair. christ.
Sorry. I'll try and keep my posts capitalized from now on.
As for the case, over the last year I've talked to Kolb very little. I'm not positive if you've seen one of my posts, or if I even remembered to post it, but I have never known or met Sarah personally, nor do I live in the area, so I believe my contributions to the legal case would have little to no effectiveness. I've talked to her through the website in which I first met her (deviantart.com) exstensively in the past, though.
If I did have any information at all reguarding this particular incident, I would provide it to authorities, but I actually just ran into it all by accident! I found the article and noticed the same name as well as the photos looking similar, and that's how I found out about all of this.
I, like many, doubt any innocence in this tragedy, but I could not conciously sit and let such uneducated comments of judgement be made upon a person I personally knew--and at the time a knew them, a good person--just because of the way he/she dresses.
Anyway, thank you for the support and obvious understanding of what I've been trying to say, and for the informative articles.
Would you *please* use capitals. I realize you've stated you "want to be different" but proper writing will never go out of style.
You didn't answer my question about how you found this thread discussion?
You *have* defended Sarah in your last paragraph saying if she is found guilty you will be "disappointed.
>>she then and still looks foward to life just as anybody else would. how shocking is that? (sarcasm.) <<
How can your "friend," Sarah, "look forward to life." Does she somehow believe in her warped mind that she will be living life on the outside rather than behind bars? Is that what you wish for also? Commit a crime, but don't do the time?
>> but as the public, it's you're duty not to codemn someone who is not yet found guilty by a court based on their looks, music they listen to, or anything else. <<
It's all part of the total package. Goths have a fascination with death. It is reported that Sarah had told other classmates she would "kill" Adrienne. How much more information is needed. Do you want across-the-board sanctioning because you're a little offended?
After all, Goths are a subculture ... a very defiant subculture thumbing their nose at all things conventional.
>>But I want to stress that your local perspective <<
While I'll admit that I plainly misread Wide Eye's first post ..partly because of the poor layout, lack of capitalization, etc., you make broad-brushed statements about those of us who *did* misread it. (guess I'm not the only one)
However, you fail yourself to CLEARLY read that Jason said he is from NC .. he is not "local" to the case.
Yes, it gets creepier as more details come out.
Father had warned daughter murder suspect was trouble
By Barb Ickes
http://www.qctimes.com/print.php?story_id=1044616
Tony Reynolds told his daughter, Adrianne, that he didnt want her hanging around with Sarah Kolb.
It appears now that a fathers instinct was correct: Kolb was bad news.
In fact, Tonys wife, Joann, said Kolb once pulled a knife on 16-year-old Adrianne. But Kolbs sister stepped in, she said, and the confrontation ended.
Police now believe there was another confrontation and, this time, no one stepped in to protect Adrianne.
At 2 a.m. Wednesday, the phone rang at the Reynolds house.
It was the police telling us they were at our door, Joann Reynolds recalled Saturday.
I was just hoping they were going to say they found Adrianne and she was at the hospital or something, the girls father said.
But the news was worse. Much worse.
Though police delivered the shattering news that Adrianne was dead, they did not share everything they knew.
The way we found out about the dismemberment was on the TV news, Joann said.
I guess I didnt want to believe it, Tony added.
The couple is still trying to believe it. Tony and Joann sat close to each other on their living room couch Saturday, surrounded by family and friends. They talked about the little girl who was born in Arkansas and moved to Texas when she was about 6 years old.
Joann remembered watching her stepdaughter singing to karaoke in the familys basement recently and recalled how Adrianne was embarrassed to realize someone was watching her dancing around and carrying on.
Adriannes dream was to be a country singer and her father was one of her biggest fans.
I remember her standing in here, singing Amazing Grace, and, he said, stopping in mid-sentence because of the pain that rose into his throat. When shed start singing, you might as well throw me a roll of paper towels.
Joanns brother, Mike McCollum, who has been at his sister and brother-in-laws side throughout this ordeal, added, When she sang, you could just feel it.
And Tony closed his eyes, as if trying to hear his daughters voice once again.
It feels impossible that he will not.
Adrianne, Sarah and Cory
Tony and Joann Reynolds are as angry as anyone might guess. They want Kolb and Gregory put to death. And they absolutely cannot understand how two people so young could do what police say they did to Adrianne.
Adrianne told me that she had to hide her friendship with Cory from Sarah, Joann said. He went baby-sitting with her once, which we didnt know.
When his daughter failed to show up for work at 5 p.m. Jan. 21, Tony drove to Corys house to look for her. The couple also called Sarah Kolb on the phone.
Sarah was so convincing when we talked to her that night, Joann said. I believed her when she said they had dropped Adrianne off at McDonalds.
We were told that Sarah was supposed to go to her grandmothers house in Aledo that night.
Police since have said that Kolb did go to Mercer County that night to dismember Adriannes body after she and Gregory murdered her.
While it may be puzzling why Adrianne would continue to befriend a girl who had threatened her with a knife, her father said the answer is simple: She wanted to be liked.
When she enrolled at Black Hawk Outreach Center in late November to work on her GED, or general equivalency diploma, Adrianne didnt know many kids in the Quad-Cities. Shed only been living in East Moline for about a week and was eager to make friends.
She wasnt like many of the others who favored the Goth look, which is mostly black clothes, black nail polish and music with hardcore lyrics.
Adriannes favorite color was pink not black, her father said.
And she also was very close to her dad.
She told me everything some things I didnt want to know, he said.
His brother-in-law, McCollum, added, You could tell she really loved her daddy.
What comes next
Tony and Joann Reynolds know the next few days will bring more bitter struggles. They have to get through the funeral. Adriannes body was cremated, her father said, and the ashes divided between him and his former wife, Adriannes mother.
I felt a little better last night when I knew she was back here and not being prodded and stuck at an autopsy, Tony said. Im a truck driver and, when she first went missing, I would look into every car that went past.
Ill probably do the same thing for a while, I guess.
For Joann, nighttime is the worst.
When I go to bed at night and close my eyes, I picture how it happened what they did to her and I cant sleep, she said.
Mercifully, the couple is likely to have a year of coping with Adriannes violent death before the trial comes. But they will be there in the courtroom to see Kolb and Gregory stand trial.
I wish theyd get what she got the death penalty, Joann said. They were her judge and jury. They deserve to die.
For now, the memorial services, the anonymous notes and flowers that have been dropped off at the house and a candlelight vigil that was planned by classmates bring some measure of comfort to the still-shocked and grieving parents.
All she ever wanted was to have friends, Joann said.
If the kids want to do things for her, thats nice, Tony added, the tears sneaking back into his eyes. The more she was loved it makes me feel better.
There is just one unfulfilled wish they would like to carry out. The Reynolds are waiting for a tape recording to arrive in the mail from Texas. It is a recording of Adrianne singing.
Her wish was to sing on television, so were going to try to get it played on TV, Tony said. She also wanted to learn to play the guitar.
She got a guitar for Christmas, he said. She mustve been playing it quite a bit, because we noticed a string is broken.
As a parent, the Goth culture scares me. There are a few of them at our kids' high school and they all hang out together in a particular area of the hallway(s). My kids are under strict orders to stay away from these Goth kids many of whom are known drug users as well.
Strings don't break just from playing. They can break from impact, etc.
.... or over-tightening - something typical for a new guitar player to do, by the way.
Goths are a subculture ... a very defiant subculture thumbing their nose at all things conventional.
Goths are Anarchists wearing cheap Marlyn Manson black eye liner makeup. Herd mentality fooled into thinking they're unique.
Unique?! Riggggggggght. Agreed about the herd mentality.
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