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For some of us, Carson's death a grim awakening
Chicago Tribune ^ | Jan. 26, 2004 | John Kass

Posted on 01/26/2005 3:06:33 PM PST by Rennes Templar

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To: Rennes Templar

I recommend nicotine gum.


21 posted on 01/26/2005 3:21:03 PM PST by ScottFromSpokane (http://drunkengop.blogspot.com/)
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To: freedumb2003; All

I am a smoking Freeper. My mom is presently in a fetal position suffering from Alzheimer's, and has a shunt to drain fluid from her brain. She never smoked.

I read that smoking seems to reduce the risk of Alzheimer', which is in part why I have not tried harder to quit.

Which way would be better to go? Emphysema or Alzheimer's? We think we can control our destiny by choices made, but I am not sure that we have all that much influence, really.


22 posted on 01/26/2005 3:21:33 PM PST by jacquej
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To: Rennes Templar

On the other hand, one of my granddads never smoked in his life, and died of lung cancer. George Burns smoked, and lived to be almost 100.


23 posted on 01/26/2005 3:21:55 PM PST by MizSterious (First, the journalists, THEN the lawyers.)
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To: Rennes Templar
My Dad died of lung cancer and emphysema at 65. He never knew he would be a Grandfather.

I never smoked thanks in a great measure to listening to my Dad cough up his lungs in the bathroom each and every morning.

24 posted on 01/26/2005 3:22:03 PM PST by Redleg Duke (Pass Tort Reform Now! Make the bottom clean for the catfish!)
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To: Shortwave

I suspect the problem is not really the nicotine, but instead the hundreds of toxic gasses and combustion products that come along for the ride.

As a former smoker, this is just my well thought out opinion.


25 posted on 01/26/2005 3:22:31 PM PST by WayneM (Remember; "Saturday people first. Sunday people next.")
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To: Rennes Templar
Here's the bad news, dying from old age isn't a pretty picture. Here's some more bad news, most of us will die from old age. Does smoking make you age more rapidly? Sure. Can you avoid cancer totally if you don't smoke? Not if you live long enough.

Smoking is bad for you but living until 80 is nothing to shake a stick at.

26 posted on 01/26/2005 3:22:38 PM PST by jwalsh07
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To: bullseye876
Nobody is forcing YOU to quit, nor is anybody trying to convince YOU that this is bad for you. This is simply to report that some people have looked at what happened to Johnny Carson, considered whether it might have been preventable at least in part, and made a decision based on that thought process.

It seems logical to me, you never know what is the spark to cause someone to change a habit. It could be a little kid telling his mother "Look at that fat guy" and you overhear it. It could be a near-miss while driving drunk. It could be Johnny Carson dying of emphysema.

27 posted on 01/26/2005 3:22:53 PM PST by RobFromGa (Bush Needs to Stay Aggressive in Term 2)
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To: LauraleeBraswell
I quit about 12 years ago after smoking for about 35 years. I tried everything...and always went back. What I did was not to try to stop but for about 2 weeks I kept telling myself that I was committing suicide and kept after myself. One day at work I took the pack out of my pocket and set it beside the computer to sign in for the day, walked out to get started and later that day it dawned on me I didn't have my smokes. I never had withdrawals, shakes or anything. I had broken the mind addiction. There is hope but you have to want to stop.
28 posted on 01/26/2005 3:22:59 PM PST by engrpat
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To: Rennes Templar

Don't start.


29 posted on 01/26/2005 3:23:11 PM PST by JTHomes
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To: Rennes Templar

On the other hand, Carson was 79 years old. I'm not sure he's the best poster boy for the dangers of smoking.


30 posted on 01/26/2005 3:23:35 PM PST by ScottFromSpokane (http://drunkengop.blogspot.com/)
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To: Rennes Templar
I had an Aunt that smoked all her life and died of emphysema at 67. My mother had a brother that smoked all his life and he died of lung cancer at 66.

I had an uncle that died at 75 years from (some three letter acronym – he had circulatory/respiratory problems + emphysema). Smoked since he was 15 or so.

Two other smoking family members died of lung cancer in their 60’s.

But then, my dad died at 57 from ALS. Another uncle died at 59 from lung cancer and never smoked a day in his life. A cousin died at 27 from 12 gauge blast after an altercation in a bar.

Then, had a great-uncle that died at 97 years of age – having smoked all his life (and was legally drunk as a skunk at the time of his death at 10:00 in the morning) – while walking to the post office. The drunk kid that hit him (25 years old) and killed him with his car was just as drunk as he was.

Whatever. Do what you want. Just remember that nobody (NOBODY!) gets out alive. Enjoy.

31 posted on 01/26/2005 3:24:35 PM PST by Who dat?
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To: Larry Lucido

True - He died at 79 -lived a good life, enjoyed retirement- beat the average - so why is it a "grim awakening"?


32 posted on 01/26/2005 3:25:13 PM PST by WASH
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To: freedumb2003
I quit Thanksgiving day after 26 years, pack and a half a day.

Still JUST A BIT CRANKY.......*grin

If I never touch tobacco again I will not have been cheated out of my fair share of it.

33 posted on 01/26/2005 3:25:49 PM PST by glasseye
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To: Rennes Templar

Yep, lost an aunt to her lifetime of smoking (lung cancer) at the age of 64. She told everyone to tell every smoker they know: "Don't smoke." Sadly, when she was young and slightly overweight, it was her doctor who suggested she take up smoking to lose the weight.


34 posted on 01/26/2005 3:26:11 PM PST by anniegetyourgun
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To: Rennes Templar

Quitting didn't hurt as badly as I thought it would. But it hurt for much longer than I expected. It's been nearly ten years now, and I'll go to my grave missing it...whatever age I get there.


35 posted on 01/26/2005 3:26:11 PM PST by prion (Yes, as a matter of fact, I AM the spelling police)
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To: Diego1618

That's what I did...I gave my pack to a friend and said, "Don't ever give me a cigarette, no matter what I might say." She never did, and I never smoked again. That was 30 years ago. I got tired of feeling like I was powerless over the craving.

My husband has lost both his parents and his brother to illnesses associated with their smoking. His brother was not quite 50.


36 posted on 01/26/2005 3:26:30 PM PST by Iluvpopcrn (Karen)
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To: ScottFromSpokane

I think not smoking improves chances for quality of life. I don't know how long Carson suffered, but I remember my aunt on oxygen and struggling for breath for years.


37 posted on 01/26/2005 3:26:34 PM PST by Rennes Templar ("The future ain't what it used to be".........Yogi Berra)
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To: Rennes Templar

For goodness sakes, Carson was almost 80 years old.

That is 4 years older than the life expectancy for males in the US.

We should all be so lucky to live that long.


38 posted on 01/26/2005 3:26:51 PM PST by spodefly (Yo, homey ... Is that my briefcase?)
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To: Rennes Templar

I was wondering when somebody would try to use Johnny Carson as the poster boy for the anti-smoking groups. The guy was 79 years old. He died because he got old and sick. It happens.


39 posted on 01/26/2005 3:26:54 PM PST by PilloryHillary
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To: TheRightGuy

There is a guy who works at the place I buy gas, and he quit about 10 years ago because of throat cancer.

He says that to this day, if he allowed himself, he could smoke a cigarette 100 yards long, and then lick up the ashes.


40 posted on 01/26/2005 3:27:31 PM PST by WayneM (Remember; "Saturday people first. Sunday people next.")
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