Posted on 01/25/2005 6:15:41 PM PST by gobucks
The Bible says that Cain met his wife after leaving the realm of God. Thus she was not a descendent of Adam and Eve.
The nature of insect respiration and the fact that surface area increases as a square and volume as a cube.
You agree that Church representatives teaching in a holy building, inspired by the words of God can "make an error" in their teachings of God's word. Thank you.
How did they both evolve at the same place and the same time to the same point to be together and be the beginning of God-breathed humanity.
If you are trying to reconcile evolution with belief in Scripture, this has to be addressed, because it is the crux of the matter, IMO.
The number of years God took to create the universe is not finally the point. It is, who man is, how he came to be, if he sinned, and most importantly, Jesus' coming to earth as a human (God made flesh), and dying for Adam's sin, and for us all.
I have not seen anything to satisfactorily address that fundamental problem with theistic evolution.
It proves nothing in this debate.
Genesis 2 says the animals were created AFTER Adam. Go figure.
Yes..
According to Judaism, and Old Testament scholars, animals were Not Excluded from possessing souls..
Interesting. I was not aware of that.
All I'd like to say is that people can choose not to believe (evolution) it if they want
Not really. If you "choose" not to believe in evolution and you speak out about it, you're harassed... branded an idiot or a religious nutcase (some will even compare you to OBL).
Someone can choose not accept the theory of evolution, but if that someone tries to convince others who do accept it that they are wrong, well then they've got to expect rebuttal of their argument.
And if someone challenges scientific theories with religious beliefs and tries to get those taught in a public school they can expect resistance and being compared with others who do the same now and have done the same throughout history.
Sounds almost like an argument for ID. Was that your intent?
Can you point me to the scripture that equates human souls to animal souls?
I think this is taught basic biology class. Did you sleep through it?
and be the beginning of God-breathed humanity.
My good man, that is where the faith comes into play, doesn't it?
Of course I do. I never debated that point a bit. It proves nothing in this debate.
It proves that sometimes we have to rely on sources outside of the church for the truth.
No, I'm saying that if you reject scientific evidence simply because it contradicts your interpretation of religious scripture, that makes you a philosophical cousin of Bin Laden.
Both Modernman and ml1954 made a comparison between those of us who believe in Creation with bin Laden.......saying we were not far behind.
Make sure you read everything and put it all in context. This was a discussion of religion vs. science. And be sure to read #152.
From what I have read on evolution (in non-creationist publications, to make that clear), it doesn't even seem remotely possible that at the same place and the same time, a man and a woman evolved to the point where God could breathe His Spirit into them and make them fully human.
You still have not answered how you solve that problem.
I solve it easily. It's in Genesis. They were the first. They did not evolve from any form of animal. They were created, as they were, as fully human as you or I; as God-breathed, intellectually curious, creative, with the potential to invent and think and make music and art. Right from the start.......just like it says in Genesis.
Thanks for talking with me WildTurkey. It's been intellectually stimultating for me, and I hope for you.
"I think this is taught basic biology class. Did you sleep through it?
and be the beginning of God-breathed humanity.
My good man, that is where the faith comes into play, doesn't it?"
So what you're saying is that you reject the passage in the Bible where Eve was formed from the man? Is it just that they evolved at the same time to a certain point and God breathed into them separately? Am I taking your post correctly?
And if someone challenges scientific theories with religious beliefs and tries to get those taught in a public school they can expect resistance and being compared with others who do the same now and have done the same throughout history.
Someone can choose to accept the theory of evolution, but if that someone tries to convince others who do not accept it that they are wrong, well then they've got to expect rebuttal of their argument.
And if someone refuses to entertain any challenges to their scientific theories and won't let them even be discussed in a public school they can expect resistance and being compared with others (you've heard the Hitler comparison many times, I'm sure) who do the same now and have done the same throughout history.
We shouldn't teach kids to throw up their hands and say something is so complex that God had to have done it... especially in science classes... so ID belongs outside of school. But the Cobb county stickers belong on textbooks.
Does that still make me a cousin of bin Laden?
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