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Remembering the Real Martin Luther King, Jr.
The Reality Check ^ | 20 January 2005 | Michael Bates

Posted on 01/23/2005 7:33:44 AM PST by Lando Lincoln

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To: Non-Sequitur; TommyDale
Perosnally, I would love to see a holiday for Frederick Douglas instead of King.

Of course, that would mean people would have to actually KNOW who the hell he was and what he did.

41 posted on 01/23/2005 10:12:53 AM PST by NJ Neocon (Democracy is tyranny of the masses. It is three wolves and a sheep voting on what to have for dinner)
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To: G.Mason

Why was that a sucker punch? I thought it a legitimate question.


42 posted on 01/23/2005 10:15:26 AM PST by NJ Neocon (Democracy is tyranny of the masses. It is three wolves and a sheep voting on what to have for dinner)
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To: World'sGoneInsane

Well said.


43 posted on 01/23/2005 10:16:46 AM PST by NJ Neocon (Democracy is tyranny of the masses. It is three wolves and a sheep voting on what to have for dinner)
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To: WorkingClassFilth
A better question would be: What was good?

What was good? How about his belief that a black man should be entitled to the same rights as a white man? That he should be able to vote and to attend the same state funded universities as a white man. That he shouldn't be denied a place at a lunch counter or a seat on a bus merely because of his color. That he should be free to advance as far as his abilities could take him without being hampered by his color. I think all those things are good things. Don't you?

44 posted on 01/23/2005 10:17:54 AM PST by Non-Sequitur
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To: WorkingClassFilth
What he did, he did because he was annointed by the national media - not because of his personal moral merit.

So he sat on his ass until the media said, "Go launch a bus boycott in Birmingham?" The media said, "Go march in Chicago to protest discrimination in housing. Getting hit in the head with a brick will provide us a great new story. Is that what you're trying to tell us?

All, I might add, as direct products of the "dream" as it was actualized by King and his fellow crusaders.

King's 'dream' was equal opportunity and equal rights for all regardless of their race. Sorry if that upsets you so.

45 posted on 01/23/2005 10:23:10 AM PST by Non-Sequitur
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To: Lando Lincoln

I’ve been waiting for this article to appear, or re appear whatever. I’m not saying big changes were not needed.

King may have been pure when he started, but let’s forget about his personal flaws for a moment. He had been radicalized, and captured by the hard left communists after a while, and had become an organ for their cause.

He had become another tool to bring down America by dividing us.


46 posted on 01/23/2005 10:31:20 AM PST by dix (Remember the Alamo, and God bless Texas)
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To: NJ Neocon
"Why was that a sucker punch? I thought it a legitimate question."

IMHO the question was unanswerable.

TommyDale said ...

"I have always wondered why so many people held this womanizing, plagiarizing Marxist in such high esteem. No one had the guts to tell it like it really was. I think the black community has many other leaders and heroes that had a better record in the community."

Non-Sequitur replied ... "Like?"



We were referring to the 60's, mind you.



Do you have a few on the tip of your tongue?

Malcom X, Everett LeRoi Jones [aka Imanu Amiri Baraka ... aka Amiri Baraka], and Stokely Carmichael don't count. ;)

47 posted on 01/23/2005 10:35:57 AM PST by G.Mason (A war mongering, UN hating, military industrial complex loving, Al Qaeda incinerating American.)
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To: G.Mason
Malcom X, Everett LeRoi Jones [aka Imanu Amiri Baraka ... aka Amiri Baraka], and Stokely Carmichael don't count. ;)That's for sure!

Jackie Robinson. :-)

48 posted on 01/23/2005 11:12:28 AM PST by NJ Neocon (Democracy is tyranny of the masses. It is three wolves and a sheep voting on what to have for dinner)
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To: NJ Neocon

Ralph Abernathy, Hosea Williams


49 posted on 01/23/2005 11:16:50 AM PST by cyborg
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To: Lando Lincoln

Nevertheless, his memory is severely tarnished by his unwarranted attacks on his own country

** There was a lot to attack whether this author wants to believe it or not. If I was living in the South back then, I don't know if I would have been happy about the Vietnam War either. Imagine going to stop communism in another country, but not taking care of your own country? Bizarre. I don't think they were unwarranted at all.


50 posted on 01/23/2005 11:21:00 AM PST by cyborg
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To: NJ Neocon
"Jackie Robinson. :-)"

That's for sure!

I'm happy there was a Jackie Robinson in baseball, and Willie Mays, and Larry Doby, and Roy Campanella, and ... ;)

51 posted on 01/23/2005 11:37:05 AM PST by G.Mason (A war mongering, UN hating, military industrial complex loving, Al Qaeda incinerating American.)
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To: G.Mason

Plus, Robinson was an anti-Cmmunist Republican.


52 posted on 01/23/2005 11:39:29 AM PST by NJ Neocon (Democracy is tyranny of the masses. It is three wolves and a sheep voting on what to have for dinner)
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To: TommyDale

Right,and most of the violence came from white mobs that went crazy over the fact that he was in those towns to bring some justice to a VERY unjust system,Jim Crow laws.


53 posted on 01/23/2005 11:50:09 AM PST by Riverman94610
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To: Riverman94610

I don't recall white mobs rioting. I do recall every major city had problems with blacks looting. Detroit, Los Angeles (Watts), Miami were not white mobs.


54 posted on 01/23/2005 12:02:21 PM PST by TommyDale
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To: TommyDale

Do you think the people sitting at the segregated lunch counters were greeted with peace and love?


55 posted on 01/23/2005 12:08:34 PM PST by cyborg
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To: Lando Lincoln
The observance has to a great extent deteriorated, as have many other holidays, into just a paid day off for people with government jobs...

MLK B-Day has never been anything more then a paid day off for gov't workers. It was a crumb thrown to blacks to shut them up.

56 posted on 01/23/2005 12:10:06 PM PST by Cowboy Bob (Fraud is the lifeblood of the Democratic Party)
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To: Lando Lincoln

bump


57 posted on 01/23/2005 12:13:05 PM PST by foreverfree
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To: TommyDale; Riverman94610

http://news.bbc.co.uk/onthisday/low/dates/stories/october/1/newsid_2538000/2538169.stm

Perhaps this will jog your memory as it seems to be very selective.


58 posted on 01/23/2005 12:14:10 PM PST by cyborg
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To: cyborg

I remember that, but the comment earlier was that it was the "white mobs" that did the rioting. I pointed out that the inner city riots and looting was done by black mobs. I think YOU may be the one with "selective memory".


59 posted on 01/23/2005 1:10:47 PM PST by TommyDale
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To: G.Mason

I agree with the Jackie Robinson, Willie Mays, Larry Doby and Roy Campanella examples. Now who do they have? Take a good look at the criminal elements in the NBA, NFL and MLB and professional boxing. Tiger Woods is a good example today, as was Reggie White.


60 posted on 01/23/2005 1:14:28 PM PST by TommyDale
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