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Escape from the universe - [wild, but fun, speculations from physicist Michio Kaku]
Prospect Magazine (U.K.) ^ | February 2005 issue | Michio Kaku

Posted on 01/21/2005 8:45:03 AM PST by snarks_when_bored

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To: VadeRetro; Junior; longshadow; RadioAstronomer; Doctor Stochastic; js1138; Shryke; RightWhale; ...
Science Ping! An elite subset of the Evolution list.
See list's description in my freeper homepage. Then FReepmail to be added/dropped.

81 posted on 01/21/2005 11:56:22 AM PST by PatrickHenry (<-- Click on my name. The List-O-Links for evolution threads is at my freeper homepage.)
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To: PatrickHenry

Thanks for the ping!


82 posted on 01/21/2005 11:59:33 AM PST by Alamo-Girl
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To: PatrickHenry

pre-ping-list placemarker


83 posted on 01/21/2005 12:03:06 PM PST by longshadow
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To: PatrickHenry

Thanks.


84 posted on 01/21/2005 12:04:17 PM PST by snarks_when_bored
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To: jimt

The emission of energy is filling a volume, but emissions originating at the same point in time radiate as a spherical front from a point source. The change in surface area of this expanding sphere is proportional to the square of the radius. It's basic geometry.


85 posted on 01/21/2005 12:15:12 PM PST by doc30 (Democrats are to morals what and Etch-A-Sketch is to Art.)
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To: PhilipFreneau; All
Here's an article (from March, 2003) which discusses the 'big rip' that I mentioned in post #54:

The Big Rip: New Theory Ends Universe by Shredding Everything

86 posted on 01/21/2005 12:20:09 PM PST by snarks_when_bored
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To: Servant of the 9
Science is the study of what happens when there are no supernatural forces involved. If supernatural forces are involved, then it is Theology.

I'm going to steal your response and repeat it often. It kinda reminds me (though not directly) of the Astrophysicist who said, "without religion, humanity has "bad" people doing bad things and "good" people doing good things. For a "good" person to do a bad thing he/she must be influenced by religion".

87 posted on 01/21/2005 12:23:21 PM PST by kipita (Rebel – the proletariat response to Aristocracy and Exploitation.)
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To: snarks_when_bored
A speculative physics riff.

Here's my riff.

They refuse to even entertain the idea that there was more than one point of singularity across infinite space. Beyond the observable part of the universe is likely another observable part of the universe. When did anything in physics occur in 1's?

88 posted on 01/21/2005 12:23:27 PM PST by Glenn (The two keys to character: 1) Learn how to keep a secret. 2) ...)
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To: Glenn
They refuse to even entertain the idea that there was more than one point of singularity across infinite space. Beyond the observable part of the universe is likely another observable part of the universe. When did anything in physics occur in 1's?

Would you be surprised to learn that there's been a lot of discussion in recent years of the questions you mention? You might want to try reading this somewhat non-technical paper by Joshua Knobe, Ken D. Olum, and Alexander Vilenkin:

Philosophical Implications of Inflationary Cosmology (abstract)

Philosophical Implications of Inflationary Cosmology (PDF)


89 posted on 01/21/2005 12:43:23 PM PST by snarks_when_bored
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To: Physicist

Stellar aberration is fine under Newton. But the Minkowski-Einsteinian limit to speed is intolerable and we are counting on still-employed physicists to find a way around that.


90 posted on 01/21/2005 12:45:30 PM PST by RightWhale (Please correct if cosmic balance requires.)
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To: kipita
You're (sort of) quoting Steven Weinberg:

With or without religion, good people can behave well and bad people can do evil; but for good people to do evil—that takes religion.

The quote is from Weinberg's essay, "A Designer Universe?".

91 posted on 01/21/2005 12:48:38 PM PST by snarks_when_bored
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To: snarks_when_bored

Exactly!


92 posted on 01/21/2005 12:54:56 PM PST by kipita (Rebel – the proletariat response to Aristocracy and Exploitation.)
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To: snarks_when_bored

Actually, I live to see the day when someone can make the connection between the intelligence of "Ray Kurzweil", the "feeling" of "Stevie Wonder" and the "spiritually" of God. The first two have connected but the connection of all three would be enlightening. Any links???


93 posted on 01/21/2005 1:12:46 PM PST by kipita (Rebel – the proletariat response to Aristocracy and Exploitation.)
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To: aculeus
Michio Kaku should stick to reviewing book for the New York Times.

Poor Michiko Kakutani...she gets no respect.

Oh, BTW, to which book were you referring?

94 posted on 01/21/2005 1:16:13 PM PST by snarks_when_bored
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To: Physicist

>> It's moving towards us.

Andromeda is, more or less, about 2 million light years away. That means that any so-called "stellar spectra" are based on very old evidence. Therefore, as I stated previously, you have no clue.


95 posted on 01/21/2005 1:27:01 PM PST by PhilipFreneau (The fool hath said in his heart, There is no God. -- Psalms 14: 1, 53:1)
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To: Servant of the 9

I think you missed my point, which was laden with irony.


96 posted on 01/21/2005 1:29:46 PM PST by jdhighness
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To: orionblamblam

My website's thesis is that the advancement of science needs a Creator with specific traits, namely those of the Christian God Jesus Christ.


97 posted on 01/21/2005 1:30:51 PM PST by jdhighness
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To: snarks_when_bored
The universe is out of control, in a runaway acceleration. Eventually all intelligent life will face the final doom—the big freeze.

It's all Bush's fault. ;)

98 posted on 01/21/2005 1:32:36 PM PST by Uncle Vlad
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To: snarks_when_bored

I was a member of freerepublic long ago. I log in after about a year's hiatus and I get the "banned: reason troll". I don't know why that was, but I forgave the mods. So I re-registered.

If you read my website and its sources, you will see how inappopriate it would be to not include it with this topic. Also, I gain nothing monetary from visitors to my site. It is tripod after all.


99 posted on 01/21/2005 1:32:56 PM PST by jdhighness
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To: RightWhale

Buddhism and hinduisms take on creation has been refuted. The Abrahamic religions science is accurate, but Islam is historically ignorant and too human. Judaism ignores the necessary divinity of Christ in that the disciples would not have elected a really hostile lifestyle for a lie (which they claim).

Please see my website's arguments and my evidence and then see if mainstream, evidence based science still supports string theory, multi-universes, multiple creations, etc.

Those thoughts are entertained in the sci community simply because they are an escape from the inevitable: God created the universe and His design shows its purpose.


100 posted on 01/21/2005 1:36:57 PM PST by jdhighness
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