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A Bloody Crime in New Jersey Divides Egyptians Once Again (Copts: "Wake up America!")
nytimes.com ^ | January 21, 2005 | ANDREA ELLIOTT

Posted on 01/20/2005 7:49:06 PM PST by Destro

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and a newfound immigrant power that has left the Egyptian Christians - a repressed minority in Egypt - unafraid to assert their voice here.

Gee, the Christians leave the land of dhimmitude and get all uppity on their former Muslim overlords. How is the State Dept allowing this? (sarcasm)

The murder victims - Hossam Armanious, 47, Amal Garas, 37, and their daughters, Sylvia, 15, and Monica, 8 - were Copts, or members of the Coptic Orthodox church. In Egypt, Muslims are the majority and Copts, who are roughly 10 percent of the population, live with varying degrees of social, political and religious discrimination

Copts (Byzantine Greek pronunciation for "Egyptian") are the original Egyptians - or to be more accurate - they refused to assimilate and convert to Islam and adopt the Arab culture of their Muslim invaders.

"Wake up America!" yelled Dr. Monir Dawoud

How long will Eastern Orthodox Christians need to be yelling "Wake up America!" until America does indeed wake the hell up?

"In my country, I can't have one tenth of this," said Mr. Ayad, the Copt who served as deputy mayor in Jersey City for nine years, until 2001. Mr. Ayad, who is also a Coptic deacon and a real estate investor, said he dreamed of being a politician in Egypt but never had the chance given his religious affiliation. And then there are the clashes between the groups, which date back more than 1,300 years, to when Islam took over as Egypt's leading religion. The most recent large-scale strife, in the upper Egyptian town of El Kusheh in 2000, left 20 Christians and one Muslim dead.

So called "democracy" in Muslim countries will mean the final eradication of Christians in their native lands. Maybe then NATO again will bomb Eastern Christians for daring to defending themselves.

1 posted on 01/20/2005 7:49:08 PM PST by Destro
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To: Destro

"sales clerks speak in equally hushed tones about the unsolved murder last week of a Christian Egyptian family, wary of who may be listening."


HELLOOOO...is this still AMERICA??


2 posted on 01/20/2005 7:52:19 PM PST by RoseofTexas
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To: jb6; NYer; A. Pole

WAKE UP AMERICA!


3 posted on 01/20/2005 7:52:56 PM PST by Destro (Know your enemy! Help fight Islamic terrorism by visiting johnathangaltfilms.com and jihadwatch.org)
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To: RoseofTexas

What's left of America.


4 posted on 01/20/2005 7:54:26 PM PST by Destro (Know your enemy! Help fight Islamic terrorism by visiting johnathangaltfilms.com and jihadwatch.org)
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To: Destro

Stop Jihad Now!


5 posted on 01/20/2005 7:56:21 PM PST by Paladin2 (SeeBS News - We Decide, We Create, We Report - In that order! - ABC - Already Been Caught)
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To: Destro
This article sure leaves out a heck of a lot.

The victims were bound and their throats slit, their bodies mutilated with multiple knife wounds. A cross tattoo on one girl's wrist was slashed.

Jewelry in the house was not taken, according to family members.

The father of the family had been threatened by Muslims in a chat room that they knew where he lived and they would "cut his throat like a chicken."

NOW is it a little clearer why the local Coptic Christians are so stirred up? It's easy to make it look like irrational behavior when you leave out the relevant facts.

6 posted on 01/20/2005 7:56:48 PM PST by AnAmericanMother (. . . Ministrix of ye Chace (recess appointment), TTGC Ladies' Auxiliary . . .)
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To: Destro
What are you talking about? Roundem up and send them to the showers?

This was a murder. The cops need to investigate etc..etc..

Let them do their jobs and STFU.

7 posted on 01/20/2005 7:58:35 PM PST by zarf
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To: AnAmericanMother

Why should the NYTimes give an accurate picture on the crime against the Christians by Muslims? Kosovo and Bosnia all over again - this time reported out of New Jersey.


8 posted on 01/20/2005 7:58:36 PM PST by Destro (Know your enemy! Help fight Islamic terrorism by visiting johnathangaltfilms.com and jihadwatch.org)
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To: RoseofTexas

Why does this not surprised me???

What is happening to the Jews in Israel, the Hindus in India, The Buddhists, in Thailand, the Christians in the Sudan will take place here

THERE ARE 22 WARS taking place in the world -- all of them have one thing in common -- ISLAM is attacking its neighbors. THE WORLD IS AT WAR WITH ISLAM, sadly the main stream press is often but a fifth column. After all we must be nice to the people who slaughter people like Dan Pearl and Nick Berg -- after all we if we pointed out who murdered these people wouldn’t that be racist?



A good HISTORY TEST
The following multiple choice test. The events are actual cuts from past history. They actually happened!!!


In 1968 Bobby Kennedy was shot and killed by:
a. Jay Lenno
b. Harry Potter
c. Dick Butkiss, Gale Sayers and Joe Namith
d. Muslim male extremist between the ages of 17 and 40

In 1972 at the Munich Olympics, athletes were kidnapped and massacred
by:
a. Olga Corbett
b. Sitting Bull
c. Red Grange
d. Muslim male extremists mostly between the ages of 17 and 40

2. In 1979, the US embassy in Iran was taken over by:
a. Lost Norwegians
b. A tour bus full of 80-year-old women
c. Vince Lombardi
d. Muslim male extremists mostly between the ages of 17 and 40

3.During the 1980's a number of Americans were kidnapped in Lebanon by:
a. John Dillinger
b. The King of Sweden
c. The Boy Scouts
d. Muslim male extremists mostly between the ages of 17 and 40

4. In 1983, the US Marine barracks in Beirut was blown up by:
a. A pizza delivery boy
b. Pee Wee Herman
c. Walter Payton and Michael Jordan
d. Muslim male extremists mostly between the ages of 17 and 40

5. In 1985 the cruise ship Achille Lauro was hijacked and a 70 year old
American passenger was murdered and thrown overboard in his wheelchair
by:
a. The Smurfs
b. Louie Armstrong
c. Joe Stabler and the Oakland Radiers
d. Muslim male extremists mostly between the ages of 17 and 40
1. 6.In 1985 TWA flight 847 was hijacked at Athens, and a US Navy diver
trying to rescue passengers was murdered by:
a. Captain Kidd
b. Mother Teresa
c. Babe Ruth and Hank Greenberg
d. Muslim male extremists mostly between the ages of 17 and 40

7.In 1988, Pan Am Flight 103 was bombed by:
a. Scooby Doo
b. The Tooth Fairy
c. Alan Page and the Joe Montana
d. Muslim male extremists mostly between the ages of 17 and 40

8. In 1993 the World Trade Center was bombed the first time by:
a. Richard Simmons
b. Grandma Moses
c. Lou Gerhig and Ty Cobb
d. Muslim male extremists mostly between the ages of 17 and 40

9.In 1998, the US embassies in Kenya and Tanzania were bombed by:
a. Mr. Rogers
b. Hillary Clinton, to distract attention from Wild Bill' s women
problems
c. Al Kaline and the 1968 World Champion Detroit Tigers
d. Muslim male extremists mostly between the ages of 17 and 40

10.On 9/11/01, four airliners were hijacked; two were used as missiles
to take out the World Trade Centers and of the remaining two, one
crashed into the US Pentagon and the other was diverted and crashed by
the passengers. Thousands of people were killed by:
a. Bugs Bunny, Wiley E. Coyote, Daffy Duck and Elmer Fudd
b. Mr, Bean
c. Joe Montana and Hank Stram
d. Muslim male extremists mostly between the ages of 17 and 40

11.In 2002 the United States fought a war in Afghanistan against:
a. Sargent Shultz, Colonel Klink and Major Hochsteter from Hogans Heros.
b. The New York Metropolian Opera house
c. The Chicago Symphony
d. Muslim male extremists mostly between the ages of 17 and 40

12. In 2002 reporter Daniel Pearl was kidnapped and murdered by:
a. Bonnie and Clyde
b. Captain Kangaroo
c. Tarzand. Muslim male extremists mostly between the ages of 17 and 40

Nope, .....I really don't see a pattern here to justify profiling, do
you?

So, to ensure we Americans never offend anyone, particularly fanatics
intent on killing us, airport security screeners will no longer be
allowed to profile certain people. They must conduct random searches of
80-year-old women, little kids, airline pilots with proper
identification, secret agents who are members of the President's security detail, 85-year old
Congressmen with metal hips, and Medal of Honor winning and former
Governor Joe Foss, but leave Muslim Males between the ages 17 and 40
alone because of profiling. We dare not search those who cause terrorism after all we do not want to be seen as racists by the islamic terrorists


9 posted on 01/20/2005 7:58:58 PM PST by GaryMontana (The future belongs to the bold, not the cowards who hide under rags (ragheads)!)
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Yep! When will we wake up and call our enemy by it's name, like we did 65 years ago? Evil is back, and this time it's cloaked in Islamo-Fascism.
10 posted on 01/20/2005 8:01:35 PM PST by DTogo (U.S. out of the U.N. & U.N out of the U.S.)
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To: RoseofTexas

I just came back from an Egyptian shisha bar this evening in Queens filled with lots of Copts and Muslims. All enjoying each others company.

I truly hope this event can make the Arab community realize the ridiculousness of importing extremism to this country. Arabs are Arabs, and especially in America we should not have to put up with this crap.


11 posted on 01/20/2005 8:03:07 PM PST by TFine80
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To: RoseofTexas

I just came back from an Egyptian shisha bar this evening in Queens filled with lots of Copts and Muslims. All enjoying each others company.

I truly hope this event can make the Arab community realize the ridiculousness of importing extremism to this country. Arabs are Arabs, and especially in America we should not have to put up with this crap.


12 posted on 01/20/2005 8:03:12 PM PST by TFine80
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To: GaryMontana

Bobby Kennedy was shot by a Sirhan Sirhan, I think was a Catholic/Christian Palestinian who may have dabbled in the occult.


13 posted on 01/20/2005 8:03:30 PM PST by Destro (Know your enemy! Help fight Islamic terrorism by visiting johnathangaltfilms.com and jihadwatch.org)
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To: TFine80

Copts are not Arabs.


14 posted on 01/20/2005 8:04:09 PM PST by Destro (Know your enemy! Help fight Islamic terrorism by visiting johnathangaltfilms.com and jihadwatch.org)
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Well, they speak Arabic. Why not?


15 posted on 01/20/2005 8:04:34 PM PST by TFine80
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To: Destro

no he was a palestinian who claimed to be muslim.

But that is ok he was still an arab terrorist.


17 posted on 01/20/2005 8:05:03 PM PST by GaryMontana (The future belongs to the bold, not the cowards who hide under rags (ragheads)!)
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To: TFine80

So? The Irish speak English - that makes the Irish, English?


18 posted on 01/20/2005 8:05:35 PM PST by Destro (Know your enemy! Help fight Islamic terrorism by visiting johnathangaltfilms.com and jihadwatch.org)
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...the police have yet to make an arrest and believe that robbery was a motive.

In one of the several articles I've read about the murders, it said that the FBI is involved in the investigation. I'd like to know why the FBI would be involved if this was just a robbery/murder investigation.

19 posted on 01/20/2005 8:05:47 PM PST by SilentServiceCPOWife (Schni schna schnappi, schnappi, schnappi, schnapp!)
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BTTT


20 posted on 01/20/2005 8:06:35 PM PST by Fiddlstix (This Tagline for sale. (Presented by TagLines R US))
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