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Time to get an accurate read on the performance of public schools
Townhall ^ | January 17, 2005 | Phyllis Schlafly

Posted on 01/18/2005 4:06:25 AM PST by shubi

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Public schools, especially in urban areas are the biggest fraud perpetrated by government (maybe social security is close).

The figures for private and home schooled children are so much better, it makes me wonder if the education credentialing process promotes making kids stupid.

1 posted on 01/18/2005 4:06:27 AM PST by shubi
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An accurate read?

Okay-- government schools suck!


2 posted on 01/18/2005 4:08:08 AM PST by ovrtaxt (Are the leftists still allowing us to say 'Happy New Year'?)
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Yes, and so does the whole system of keeping out teachers who know a subject and putting in teachers who think they know how to teach.

How do you teach something of which you have no knowledge?
You don't!!! We need to junk the system and go back to hiring good teachers who care about kids and not so much about money and power.


3 posted on 01/18/2005 4:13:47 AM PST by shubi (Peace through superior firepower.)
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H, but you'll hear, "that's not happening in MY school."

LOL!


4 posted on 01/18/2005 4:15:37 AM PST by nmh (Intelligent people recognize Intelligent Design (God).)
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God bless Phyllis for her decades of work in promoting the most tried and true method of reading. But because of her work, the government-education-industrial-complex will continue to resist what works.


5 posted on 01/18/2005 4:17:02 AM PST by anniegetyourgun
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NCLB forces testing on TEACHERS.

NCLB forces report cards for SCHOOLS.

NCLB allows students in failing schools to transfer OUT.

NCLB sets teaching standards, such as PHONICS rather than whole language (totally discredited) or there is NO funding.

There is a reason why the NEA is bitterly against this program. They don't want accontability.

If you can create a better way to keep watch on schools, please do so.

Education is the single most important social issue in our country.

6 posted on 01/18/2005 4:31:33 AM PST by OldFriend (PRAY FOR MAJ. TAMMY DUCKWORTH)
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I'm acquainted with an elementary school teacher who is a floating reading specialist at a whole-language school. She works with the kids who are falling behind - mainly little boys - and she gets great results. How? She has five or six copies of Hooked on Phonics that she quietly loans out to families to work on at home.


7 posted on 01/18/2005 4:38:45 AM PST by Lil'freeper (Error 404. The requested file was not found.)
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I'm referring to the sad, sad tale of how public school systems promote millions of children all the way into high school without ever teaching them how to read.

What a load. Did this author ever hear of the No Pass, No Play rule that's been around for the last few decades? It's apparent whenever there's a slow news day, journalists merely pull out from the back of the file cabinet a rant on public schools. Of course it's not the parents' fault that Johnny can't read or even bother showing up for class. No, let's not blame the parents for letting Johnny play videos all day or do drugs or join a gang rather than doing his homework. No, it can't be the parents' fault that PTA's are things of the past. It would be too un-PC to place the blame squarely on uninvolved parents, where is belongs.

If your neighborhood public school isn't up to your standards, get up off your duff and fix it.

8 posted on 01/18/2005 4:39:38 AM PST by mtbopfuyn
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Orlando school officials have decided to experiment with three new reading approaches: Scholastic's Read 180, which relies heavily students using computers and comes with a price tag of $439,000; McGraw-Hill's SRA Corrective Reading at $130,000; and Strategically Oriented Intensive Reading Instruction at $84,000.

$40 per classroom for a copy of Alpha-Phonics, plus $3 for chalk. Presto! (This is based on the assumption that the teachers don't know phonics, either ... otherwise all they'd need is the chalk!)

9 posted on 01/18/2005 4:54:33 AM PST by Tax-chick ( The old woman who lives in the 15-passenger van.)
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Parents reading to children, right from the start, is the very best thing there is for a child's education. It affects all the rest. We've got many parents who are don't read regularly to their children. My wife saw big differences as an elementary assistant when working on the alphabet with K,1 students -- she could tell immediately which were read to at home.

The whole language approach, combined with not correcting spelling until third grade, should be scrapped for a blended phonics + whole approach.

While teachers certainly have areas they need to improve (mostly politically), they are saddled with unruly, unprepared, video-addicted, junked-up kids. With defensive parents.

Look into how many kids are on ADD/ADHD meds at your local elementary school. They're linking ADD/ADHD to both early TV watching (rapid-fire imagery/sounds) and food allergies (corn, milk, chocolate, and wheat primarily). My child's ADHD symptoms were eliminated by removing corn (it's in everything, all day long, as the cheap sweetener and starch source, saturating growing bodies). Ever been on a field trip after a bag lunch? Ever check out the typical kid's 'meal'? Ever watch them climbing the walls 20 minutes later?
10 posted on 01/18/2005 5:25:19 AM PST by polymuser
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Never having been taught to sound out syllables, they saw "Libertarian" and thought they were selecting "Lieberman" for vice president.

I never made this connection before. I can always count on Phyllis to teach me something new every column. She isn't a babe, but she is the smartest Conservative woman we've got...as much as I like Coulter and Malkin and Ingrahm &c &c, we need Phyllis.

11 posted on 01/18/2005 5:53:57 AM PST by blanknoone (The two big battles left in the War on Terror are against our State dept and our media.)
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Did this author ever hear of the No Pass, No Play rule that's been around for the last few decades?

While I agree with your sentiment about fixing your own neighborhood schools, whatever the 'No Pass, No Play' rule is, it ain't working.

12 posted on 01/18/2005 5:57:34 AM PST by blanknoone (The two big battles left in the War on Terror are against our State dept and our media.)
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We wouldn't need to keep "watch" on our schools if each locality was running them like in the past.

It is the federalization of schools that caused the problem in the first place. Look at retirement and medical if you want other examples of how federal intervention makes things worse.


13 posted on 01/18/2005 5:59:34 AM PST by shubi (Peace through superior firepower.)
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I agree that parents have a good deal of responsibility, but in the inner city there are really no parents to blame.

I know one high school here that graduates about 7 percent of those who start and a good number of those are barely literate.


14 posted on 01/18/2005 6:03:25 AM PST by shubi (Peace through superior firepower.)
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Three of my four kids had a nun that taught intensive phonics in first grade (catholic private school). Results- 1 National Merit Finalist Lawyer, 1 Summa Cum Laude, 1 Engineer.

One without the nun is taking 6 years to get through undergrad.


15 posted on 01/18/2005 6:08:32 AM PST by shubi (Peace through superior firepower.)
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You have to have kids that care about atheletics for no pass no play to have any effect. With grade inflation, the rule really doesn't have much effect in Public Schools.

That is how Public Schools get around the laws and standards. If they don't like it or can't perform, they just give the grades away and help the little illiterates cheat on the tests.


16 posted on 01/18/2005 6:11:43 AM PST by shubi (Peace through superior firepower.)
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She'd probably be fired if the administration found out about it. I think she should get a medal.


17 posted on 01/18/2005 6:20:36 AM PST by ladylib ("Marc Tucker Letter to Hillary Clinton" says it all.)
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'If', like 'Is' has no meaning.

The president sought to deal with the situation as it is today.

You can tell from the level of hysteria coming from the NEA that the President is on the right track. We have a long way to go, but must start somewhere.

18 posted on 01/18/2005 6:28:04 AM PST by OldFriend (PRAY FOR MAJ. TAMMY DUCKWORTH)
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Schools that use Whole Language rather than phonics have many students who can't read. Some kids learn to read in spite of Whole Language. Many don't.

It's not the parents' fault. It's the schools' fault. It has nothing to do with kids watching videos, joining gangs, or not doing homework. It's hard to get students interested in school if they can't read. Teach them to read correctly and many learning and behavior problems will disappear.

It is the parents' fault, however, if they don't go down to the school and raise hell.


19 posted on 01/18/2005 6:30:21 AM PST by ladylib ("Marc Tucker Letter to Hillary Clinton" says it all.)
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One without the nun is taking 6 years to get through undergrad.

Maybe it's just because it's the youngest :-).

20 posted on 01/18/2005 6:31:45 AM PST by Tax-chick ( The old woman who lives in the 15-passenger van.)
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