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The Wal-Mart You Don't Know
Fast Company ^ | December 2003, | Charles Fishman

Posted on 01/17/2005 10:28:09 AM PST by jb6

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To: jb6

My close friends new wife, who is a feminist and leftist, has urged me not to shop WalMart because it discriminates against women...I find that hard to believe, but thought this anti WalMart thread might be a place to mention it.

I am a free market person generally, so am not inclined to be a WalMart basher, but still don't find the interior of the stores very attractive.


181 posted on 01/17/2005 7:20:24 PM PST by Sam Cree (Democrats are herd animals)
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To: Diana in Wisconsin
But once I thought it through to it's logical conclusion, I reached the point that many of you started from; it's just a store. It's Supply and Demand. People are not held at gunpoint and made to work or shop there! Get what you can there on the cheap, and get other stuff cheaper elsewhere. Better yet, re-think your shopping habits, cut down on your consumming all the way around and bank the saved cash! I'd rather have the money in my bank account than "invested" in an aquarium-sized jar of pickles! Duh!

When I was flat-@ssed broke, I only shopped at Big Lots. I got a promotion, and moved up to Wal-Mart because it was closer and more convenient, and had better selection. Then I got another promotion and started shopping at Target because it's closer still, and has better quality.

You're right. WalMart is just a store.

182 posted on 01/17/2005 7:37:40 PM PST by Terabitten (How many of them can we make die? Heather Alexander, "March of Cambreadth")
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To: shellshocked

Unfair to who ..?? the unions - the unions who only support democrats - the unions who cyphon off dues and donate it to democrats ..??


183 posted on 01/17/2005 9:09:36 PM PST by CyberAnt (Where are the dem supporters? - try the trash cans in back of the abortion clinics.)
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To: jb6; All

Interesting article. Midway through reading, more specifically around the Huffy story, I flashed to a scene from Full Metal Jacket. The recruits are in the squad bay and Pvt Pile has gotten into deep doodoo. The DI tells him to choke himself to which Pvt. Pile grabs the DI's hand. The DI pulls it back and says don't grab my hand not get on your knees and choke yourself. And so the recruit did.


184 posted on 01/17/2005 10:35:33 PM PST by Texas_Jarhead (I believe in American Exceptionalism! Do you?)
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To: Texas_Jarhead
Do you remember when Private Joker was in country and that Colonel asked him why he had the peace symbol and "born to kill" written on his helmet? And he said something or other about the duality of the trade deficit...how NET EXPORTS = NET CAPITAL OUTFLOW. In other words what he was saying was that trade deficits are equal to capital account surpluses and, inversely, trade surpluses are equal to capital account deficits.

Would you rather us be the lender feeding other countries' investments?

I believe in your tagline, do you?

185 posted on 01/18/2005 3:02:27 AM PST by LowCountryJoe (Many things in moderation, some with conservation, few in immoderation, all because of liberation!)
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To: Diddle E. Squat

Unless of course someone has an apparent agenda, along with a hate of Wal-mart. Excellent sleuthing.


186 posted on 01/18/2005 4:17:02 AM PST by wita
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To: pilgrim; LowCountryJoe

FYI, Joe's confused about the priority of labor over capital. Joe thinks the dollar is first, last, and all-between.

Real Conservatives understand that man is at the center of economics.

His confusion is epic, as was AynRand's.


187 posted on 01/18/2005 5:13:50 AM PST by ninenot (Minister of Membership, TomasTorquemadaGentlemen'sClub)
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To: Mase
Wal Mart spent 137.5 billion dollars with American suppliers last year

First off, that's a nice side-step.

Of that 137B, how much was produced ON SHORE?

"American suppliers" is irrelevant--it's "American-produced" that is important.

Secondly, how much was "American-supplied AND -produced" in 1975?

188 posted on 01/18/2005 5:16:27 AM PST by ninenot (Minister of Membership, TomasTorquemadaGentlemen'sClub)
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To: Texas_Jarhead

I have a feeling that the vast majority of posters never got past the first paragraph and don't even know what the point was.


189 posted on 01/18/2005 6:38:36 AM PST by jb6 (Truth = Christ)
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To: CyberAnt

Wal-Mart not wanting unions has nothing to do with moral or ethical values. It is a decision born completely of profit. If they any moral or ethics they wouldn't do the things they do, such as demand unpaid overtime or cut employees off at to the hourly point where Wal-Mart would be required to provide health benefits.


190 posted on 01/18/2005 7:01:08 AM PST by shellshocked
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To: rwfromkansas

Exactly. Those companies entered into agreements with Walmart and as a matter of fact some of those companies had special Wal-Mart sales teams. If they made a poor deal with Wal-Mart, well thats their fault not Wal-Marts. Why did Vlasic agree to $2.97 for a gallon of picks anyway? With all the over paid MBAs running around
you would think that one one them would have foreseen
the problems with that. Anyone that runs their own business
could see what was coming when you sell at cost.


191 posted on 01/18/2005 7:12:08 AM PST by ghitma (MeClaudius)
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To: nmh
These is a fourth reason.
They are successful.
192 posted on 01/18/2005 7:18:41 AM PST by ghitma (MeClaudius)
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To: Jaysun
Good point. Not only did oil save the whales from extinction but it put the whaling fleets out of business and yet the country prospered anyway. The whalers found other ways of making money. Life wil go on.
193 posted on 01/18/2005 7:32:57 AM PST by ghitma (MeClaudius)
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To: ghitma

Simply put, Wal-Mart tells you what it wants to pay for its goods and services. If you don't agree, they cut you off 100%.

If you can afford to lose 100% of your business with them, fine. If not, you progressively shrink your margins until you outsource everything or go out of business.

But make no mistake; being able to bully your own cost is not business savvy. There are other names for such activity.

Smirking by the portfolio crowd is expected. But when the timecard, consumption class (working at Wal-Mart), can't fuel enough sales (like the old coalmine company store), then the investment class too, will realize "what they hath wrought."


194 posted on 01/18/2005 7:59:03 AM PST by Dysfunctional
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To: Luke21

"The commies will never get it." Actually the commies in China are definitely getting it--our exported dollars for Chicom junk thanks to W-M et al who have sent the Chicoms billions creating a huge, positive (for them) trade balance. What do they do with the money? Build their already huge military might and threaten us with atomic destruction. Do you get it yet? Nahhhh! I have sent this same message for months, but I'm an unheard voice in the wilderness, so this is the last time I'll try it.


195 posted on 01/18/2005 8:07:14 AM PST by Paulus Invictus (Build your very own, W-M financed, Chicom H bomb.)
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To: LowCountryJoe
I wonder if I could get a good deal on a pair of imported galoshes at Wal*mart or Sam's Club...the sh*t sure did get rather deep in here all of a sudden.

Whatever. I'm sorry but I had mistaken you for someone who might have a counter-argument.

196 posted on 01/18/2005 8:31:53 AM PST by Question_Assumptions
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To: ghitma

True! True! True!

"They are successful."

Every anticaptialist hates $ucce$$!


197 posted on 01/18/2005 9:18:44 AM PST by nmh (Intelligent people recognize Intelligent Design (God).)
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To: jb6
Wal-Mart is on top of every aspect of their business. Go read:

Click here for good read 1.

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Click here for good read 6.

198 posted on 01/18/2005 9:33:20 AM PST by MeneMeneTekelUpharsin (Freedom is the freedom to discipline yourself so others don't have to do it for you.)
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To: shellshocked

"profit"

You're against a business making a PROFIT ..??

Obviously .. you do not own your own business. If you did you would view PROFIT very differently. Just because YOU don't happen to approve of their business practices, that doesn't mean those practices are immoral or unethical.

Sooooo .. when you get your own business are you going to GIVE UP ALL YOUR PROFITS just to please some whining democrats ..?? Get real!


199 posted on 01/18/2005 11:29:59 AM PST by CyberAnt (Where are the dem supporters? - try the trash cans in back of the abortion clinics.)
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To: CyberAnt

"You're against a business making a PROFIT ..??

Obviously .. you do not own your own business."



Do you always jump to wild-assed conclusions? My point was that Wal-Mart isn't doing a good thing for the benefit of the employees, as some have suggested they do.


200 posted on 01/18/2005 11:46:17 AM PST by shellshocked
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