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Basnight: Cobb should concede agriculture commissioner race (NC)
Wilmington Star-News ^ | 1/15/2005 | Associated Press

Posted on 01/17/2005 2:53:15 AM PST by Prospero

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Well, you coulda knocked ME over with a feather. It's a pretty clear signal Senate President Pro Tem Marc Basnight (D-Dare) does not want to touch Art. 6, Sec. 5 of the NC Constitution, and have the Democrat General Assembly steal this election.

Could be another aspect of the growing war between Basnight and the Governor (he didn't attend Sat. Inaugural) or it could be "cooperation" of Basnight with the same Grand Jury that quized him last month, and who had aleady put Meg Scott Phipps in Jail.

1 posted on 01/17/2005 2:53:18 AM PST by Prospero
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To: Prospero; Tax-chick; NCjim; Congressman Billybob
Are you kidding me?

It's over two weeks into the new year, and these people still haven't been able to successfully filch an election?!

And they have the nerve to call themselves Democrats?(!)

Pfft!

-good times, G.J.P.(Jr.)

2 posted on 01/17/2005 3:08:33 AM PST by Do not dub me shapka broham
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To: Prospero

Or it could be the Democratic party wants to point to the Democrats conceeding as an example of what Rossi should do in the State of Washington, where Gregoire has attempted to steal the election.


3 posted on 01/17/2005 3:11:07 AM PST by connectthedots
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To: Do not dub me shapka broham

I think our Dems have grown lazy. I just hope they don't call a special election ... what a waste!


4 posted on 01/17/2005 3:58:46 AM PST by Tax-chick (I think the world needs a drink!)
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Are they seriously considering that option?
5 posted on 01/17/2005 4:12:16 AM PST by Do not dub me shapka broham
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To: connectthedots
Sounds way too clever for the likes of them.

:)

-good times, G.J.P.(Jr.)

6 posted on 01/17/2005 4:13:10 AM PST by Do not dub me shapka broham
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To: Do not dub me shapka broham

They were considering it a couple of weeks ago. Have the whole state revote on Ag. Commissioner. Crazy, huh?


7 posted on 01/17/2005 4:51:22 AM PST by Tax-chick (I think the world needs a drink!)
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Yup.

I'm sure that their counterparts in the state of Washington will be emulating them, real soon.

(Eye roll.)

8 posted on 01/17/2005 5:00:31 AM PST by Do not dub me shapka broham
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To: Do not dub me shapka broham

:-).

In our case, the "lost" votes are believed to be almost all Republican, so a revote has more potential for the Democrats.


9 posted on 01/17/2005 5:02:25 AM PST by Tax-chick (I think the world needs a drink!)
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To: Prospero
In my opinion, it is more about being practical, I can not see an ending in which Troxler is not the Ag Secretary. Perhaps Basnight sees the same thing and wishes to move on.
10 posted on 01/17/2005 5:11:26 AM PST by THE MODERATE
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Soo-prise, soo-prise.

I'm simply stuned by that revelation.

:*)

11 posted on 01/17/2005 5:11:32 AM PST by Do not dub me shapka broham
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To: Do not dub me shapka broham

The state party appears willing to abandon the fight ... the candidate probably doesn't want to give up on the opportunities for graft. (The previous Dem. Agriculture Commissioner is in jail now.)


12 posted on 01/17/2005 5:20:10 AM PST by Tax-chick (I think the world needs a drink!)
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I don't know what's so prestigious about the position.

Is it a steppingstone to higher office in North Carolina?

13 posted on 01/17/2005 5:23:50 AM PST by Do not dub me shapka broham
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To: Do not dub me shapka broham

No, I don't think so. It controls quite a few contracts and regulatory garbage that make people want to pay the Ag. Commissioner big money, though.


14 posted on 01/17/2005 5:28:32 AM PST by Tax-chick (Who needs pictures when you can have words?)
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Oh, I see.

Graft and patronage.

Kind of like liquor inspectors.

15 posted on 01/17/2005 6:47:49 AM PST by Do not dub me shapka broham
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Exactly, only it's gas pump inspections, tobacco allotments, State Fair contracts, and other little things all over the state that add up to LOTS of bribes.


16 posted on 01/17/2005 7:04:04 AM PST by Tax-chick (Who needs pictures when you can have words?)
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I can just imagine the lucre involved in those type of operations.

(Makes Ka-ching sound.)

17 posted on 01/17/2005 7:13:41 AM PST by Do not dub me shapka broham
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They are seriously considering the option.

The Ag Deptartment, by far, has they largest number of patronage positions of any department outside the direct control of the Governor's office.

And for reference sake: Article VI, Sec. 5 of the NC Constitution reads: All elections by the people shall be by ballot, and all elections by the General Assembly shall be viva voce. A contested election for any office established by Article III of this Constitution shall be determined by joint ballot of both houses of the General Assembly in the manner prescribed by law.

It was seriously believed, after a motion filed with the Supreme Court by Atkinson, that the Dems were going to do just precisely this... their only other option than the Special Election just blown out of the water.

Basnight could still try this, "reluctantly" after the House pulls the stunt.. but WHAT a can of worms.

NO one has ever tried exercising this part of the Constitution, and it looks to me like it calls for a Joint Ballot, which would mean a Joint Session... The lawsuits would fly...

18 posted on 01/17/2005 7:15:23 AM PST by Prospero (Ad Astra!)
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I think that Tom Paxton wrote a prescient song, on this very subject.

"100,000 lawyers..."

Or am I confusing him with Tom Lehrer?

19 posted on 01/17/2005 7:19:11 AM PST by Do not dub me shapka broham
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To: Prospero

Mr. Cobb should take Basnight's advice. I'm from California. I know something about special elections. And an Ag Commissioner's job is not worth the trouble for the voting public.


20 posted on 01/17/2005 9:21:10 AM PST by GVnana (If I had a Buckhead moment would I know it?)
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