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How CBS' Big Story Fell Apart
Los Angeles Times ^ | Jan 16, 2005 | James Rainey and Scott Gold

Posted on 01/16/2005 6:23:28 AM PST by John Jorsett

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To: ghostrider
It seems to me, that Presidential Election fraud on a massive scale damages a great many people, corporations, institutions, political parties and campaign donors. I realize those aren't your standard legal arguments, but this is not a standard legal case. Use of the media on such a massive scale is tantamount to an attempt to overthrow the US Government with a band of "Jack Boot Thugs."

The voting public maybe indirectly affected by CBS's actions but damaging GWB, not us, was were not the intent of airing that report. GWB is the only party with direct, personal damage and even then, he has a hard case to make considering he's a public figure.

And yes, the CBS is expecting that GWB does the "new tone" thing so that they can "slime another day". Barring that, they will use the legal system and their MSM cohorts to protect themselves from the consequences of their political acts.

41 posted on 01/16/2005 9:33:31 AM PST by jriemer (We are a Republic not a Democracy)
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To: John Jorsett

I have not heard anything about Burkett since the election. Does anyone know what is happening with him since the time the story aired and now?


42 posted on 01/16/2005 9:39:58 AM PST by foolscap
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To: John Jorsett
The POT calling the Kettle BLACK....
43 posted on 01/16/2005 9:45:41 AM PST by hosepipe (This propaganda has been ok'ed me to included some fully orbed hyperbole....)
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To: John Jorsett
...Mapes, whose salary was pegged at $200,000 to $300,000...

OK, this was news and of some interest to me.

44 posted on 01/16/2005 9:51:17 AM PST by Drango (Tag lines must be registered before approval.)
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To: FreeKeys

thanks...saved that as an html...


45 posted on 01/16/2005 10:18:56 AM PST by bitt ('every fifth round is a tracer')
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To: FreeKeys

Excellent summary.


46 posted on 01/16/2005 10:25:41 AM PST by Eastbound ("Ne'er a scrooge nor a patsy be.")
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To: dirtboy; Drango
Drango posted:

Good post, but Yawnnnnnnnnn....Nothing new in this article so why did the LATimes waste the ink? It's a rehash of what's been said ad nauseam for the last week or so.

and dirtboy replied:

It's all part of the MSM whitewash cycle.

Absolutely 100% correct.

This piece is all about excusing CBS in general and Dan Rather in particular.

Dan Rather was on the run, chasing big stories from New York to Florida to Texas and back to CBS headquarters in Manhattan. In less than a week: The Republican National Convention. A deadly hurricane. An interview for a blockbuster CBS investigation. Former President Clinton's open-heart surgery....Rather relied on the research of that producer, Mary Mapes, as both put their trust in Burkett.

Who could ever think that Dan Rather, sainted Dan Rather, the man who "got" Nixon and "fearlessly confronted" the EVIL George H W Bush about Iran-Contra, of doing anything biased?  It wasn't his fault.  He trusted Bill Burkett. 

a portrait emerges of what is an inherently messy business — a television news operation "crashing" to quickly land a big story. The description of breathless news- hounds on the hunt might have been drawn from any of the nation's big newsrooms

Yep, it's just that nasty pressure of business (they call it "messy" but they mean "evil" - all business is evil).

47 posted on 01/16/2005 11:22:54 AM PST by Phsstpok ("When you don't know where you are, but you don't care, you're not lost, you're exploring.")
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To: Allosaurs_r_us
If they keep up the denial, it keeps them from having to come up with solutions. They only solutions available will require them to overhaul their party platform and hell will freeze over before that happens.
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You have nailed it. The denial for them is recognizing their lies as their reality. They are good at that -- in fact it is the essence of their whole utopian, valueless, narcissistic existence.
48 posted on 01/16/2005 11:27:57 AM PST by EagleUSA
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To: demkicker

And doesn't McCain Feingold prohibit campaigns from running ads within 60 days of an election that challenge media reports? I had thought I read this somewhere.


49 posted on 01/16/2005 1:33:28 PM PST by Cosmo (Got wood?)
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To: John Jorsett

The Los Angeles Times, along with the Washington Post today, has no problem making excuses. To them the attempt to bring down a President on election-eve with a bogus story based on fraudulent documents was no big deal, just a kind of minor snafu. What WAS a big deal was that Bush as a young pilot thirty years ago may have cut some corner. Never mind that his opponent had sided with the enemy during wartime and had phonied up his military record--nobody they respected was interested in THAT.


50 posted on 01/16/2005 1:56:43 PM PST by ultima ratio (I)
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To: John Jorsett
while tarnishing Rather's storied career.

storied career???? Yup. One tall Tale after another!

51 posted on 01/16/2005 3:07:57 PM PST by Petruchio (<===Looks Sexy in a flightsuit . . . Looks Silly in a french maid outfit)
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To: Paradox

They were getting rid of the F102, a flawed craft...


52 posted on 01/16/2005 3:20:38 PM PST by 185JHP ( "The thing thou purposest shall come to pass: And over all thy ways the light shall shine.")
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To: jriemer
The voting public maybe indirectly affected by CBS's actions but damaging GWB, not us, was were not the intent of airing that report.

I am certainly no lawyer and definitely do not know the fine points of barrister debates. However, If CBS fraudulently attacked a US Presidential Candidate, then they attacked the US system of Government and each and every US citizen and every entity in the US. I would argue that GWB's personal damage is far less than the damage to the US Government and each of its citizens. Likewise, I would argue that the personal damage to GWB is far less important than the damage inflicted upon the country and its citizens. Clearly, the media oligopoly is in a position to influence people in a way not available to the the people. The power and impact of an oligopoly media is like that of a large military force. The few in control of an oligopoly media can misuse their power just as effectively as the few in charge of a military force. I believe that CBS intentionally and fraudulently attempted to use its oligopoly power to interfere with the US Election and should be held accountable for an attempted American Coupe and should be held accountable for individual damages to each American citizen and each American entity.

53 posted on 01/16/2005 6:44:36 PM PST by ghostrider
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To: ultima ratio

Right on target! We need to keep hammering away and not let this die. The oligopoly news media attempted an American Coupe.


54 posted on 01/16/2005 7:03:32 PM PST by ghostrider
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To: Peach
One little problem. Thornburg works for CBS ... he is their lawyer. And if he finds bias on the part of the network, he has opened up his own client to litigation.

Yep.

"The Panel" was apparently directed to whitewash the scandal because if they had reached the same crystal-clear conclusion as everybody else - - that political bias was the reason that CBS used forged military documents to try to fix a national election - - then there would be no way for CBS to avoid a criminal investigation and no way for the Justice Department to look the other way.

The report was, in fact, carefully crafted to shield the network from further investigation (and prosecution). In too-clever-by-half fashion, all aspects of the report which did not deal with the forgeries and CBS's political agenda were beefed up to try to make the report look "hard-hitting", "devastating", "crushing" etc. To add a nice finishing touch, CBS fired a few hapless underlings (while stammering through lame excuses for why they gave Rather and Heyward a pass) in order to further show everybody just how "serious" they were.

No wonder Heyward's promise of a full and thorough investigation and report in "weeks, not months" took nearly four months to produce - - there was a mountain of careful parsing and legal work involved in crafting the whitewash.

Nobody's buying, of course, but the dirty work was handled with brazen aplomb. There's really nothing in the report that Justice can get its hands around. And that was the idea from the beginning.

55 posted on 01/16/2005 7:16:15 PM PST by Lancey Howard
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