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Westernization Linked to Breast Cancer Rise
Reuters on Yahoo ^ | 1/11/05 | David Douglas - Reuters

Posted on 01/11/2005 12:16:19 PM PST by NormsRevenge

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1 posted on 01/11/2005 12:16:19 PM PST by NormsRevenge
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To: NormsRevenge

*cough* ...contraception *cough*


2 posted on 01/11/2005 12:17:26 PM PST by mike182d
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To: NormsRevenge

Is the rate of breast cancer increasing or is the diagnosis being made earlier and earlier?


3 posted on 01/11/2005 12:18:42 PM PST by frog_jerk_2004
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More likely women die from other causes much earlier in less developed nations.


4 posted on 01/11/2005 12:22:46 PM PST by TheDon (The Democratic Party is the party of TREASON)
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To: mike182d

Contraception, abortion and artificial sweeteners.


5 posted on 01/11/2005 12:23:52 PM PST by Fierce Allegiance (MY COUSIN GREG IS HOME SAFE FROM IRAQ!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!)
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Contraception, abortion and artificial sweeteners.

And smoking, processed-food diet, and less breastfeeding.

6 posted on 01/11/2005 12:26:13 PM PST by Tax-chick (Where am I? Who are all these kids, and why are they calling me Mom?)
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To: NormsRevenge

I don't suppose that the fact that they aren't dying in childbirth, from easily preventable diseases, or from tribal violence might have something to do with it?


7 posted on 01/11/2005 12:26:17 PM PST by thoughtomator (Rooting for a Jets-Vikings Superbowl!)
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8 posted on 01/11/2005 12:26:54 PM PST by kdot
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To: frog_jerk_2004

It could very well be that the rate of detection increases, and that life expectancy increases the number of cancers found (since cancer incidence increases with age).

However, increasing levels of obesity and possibly smoking (since I don't know what portion of the population tested smokes) may also be contributing to a genuinely higher incidence of breast cancer.


9 posted on 01/11/2005 12:28:47 PM PST by AQGeiger (RKBA Royal Enumerator of the Leguminous Stockpile, Wielder of the Enchanted Endoscope of Justice.)
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To: Tax-chick

bttt


10 posted on 01/11/2005 12:29:10 PM PST by cyborg (http://mentalmumblings.blogspot.com/)
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To: thoughtomator
1968 to 1997

Singapore has had modern medicine for quite some time, and I don't think they were having tribal violence in the late 60's (although I could be wrong).

11 posted on 01/11/2005 12:29:17 PM PST by Tax-chick (Where am I? Who are all these kids, and why are they calling me Mom?)
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To: NormsRevenge; mike182d; frog_jerk_2004; TheDon; Fierce Allegiance
Yes, I think all of you are right.

Contraception, abortion, artificial sweeteners, corn syrup (in everything), and highly processed everything. Longer life for women, earlier screening. All 4 of my grandparents were immigrants. At least 3 of them had family members living into their 90's. Death at 80-something meant accident or epidemic or death in infancy. My maternal grandparents lived in a small town with many other immigrants. And they all had the same story, never seeing these diseases in the old country. Now, diagnostic improvements aside, we're talking about alert, healthy people working into their 80's at least, here in the new country, many keeping 'the old ways'. My mom and my aunt were both young when they had breast cancer. It was literally unheard of on either side of the family. Neither lived past 70. On my dad's side, heart disease and diabetes popped up in his generation, again the older parents and grandparents who had immigrated did not have these diseases and often outlived the younger, American generation. And they drank and ate lots of fat. And this was true of their immigrant neighbor families, to a large extent.

True, this is a personal anecdote, and highly unscientific, but there does seem to be something to it here in the west. Amongst ourselves, as 2nd generation Americans, it is noticed and discussed by us.

12 posted on 01/11/2005 12:36:47 PM PST by fortunecookie (My grandparents didn't flee communism so that I could live in Kerry's Kommune - and I won't have to.)
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Rate is higher now, even in U.S. In the 70s, about 1 in 15 women would get breast cancer. Now it is 1 in 8 -- maybe even worse.

I suspect it is many factors. Having babies at a young age (especially under age 30), more babies, & breast feeding are protective factors. Women are waiting to have children until they are over 30.

Most of breast cancer occurs in the upper, outer quadrants of the breasts. I wonder if shaving under the arms, then applying anti-perspirants every day could have something to do with it.(?) We know that shaving takes off a thin, microscopic layer of skin (that's why it stings to apply alcohol after shaving) -- then adding chemicals to the denuded skin. Then repeating the process every day. For example, just a few cigarettes does not cause lung cancer. It is the daily packs of cigarettes, over many years, that eventually plays a strong hand in developing lung cancer.

I have noticed that almost all women's "deodorants" or really anti-perspirants -- they stop up the pores & prevent secretion of fluids. It could be that the anti-perspirants are blocking the release of toxins.


13 posted on 01/11/2005 12:37:50 PM PST by Kay
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To: NormsRevenge

My guess is that three factors are the cause of most of the higher breast cancer rate. In order of severeity, those factors are: the use of transfatty acids in foodstuffs; birth control pills; and abortions. The first interferes with normal lipid metabolism, while the second two impair natural hormonal metabolism.


14 posted on 01/11/2005 1:13:53 PM PST by Rockingham
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To: Kay
You've been the victim of scare literature. In 1992 age-adjusted incidence was 110.6 per 100,000 women in U.S. It increased from 82.5 in 1973. The most likely explanation for this is better detection as the rate stabilized in late 1980s.The good news is that mortality decreased from 1989-1992. http://www.cdc.gov/mmwr/preview/mmwrhtml/00043942.htm

If shaving under arms and using deodorant causes breast cancer presumably you can point to population differences in incidence between the U.S. and Europe? How do you explain the fact that male carriers of BRCA2 have a 7% increase in lifetime risk? Do they shave more? And why do you think that the body rids itself of toxins via perspiration?
15 posted on 01/11/2005 1:17:25 PM PST by cosine
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To: Kay
Most of breast cancer occurs in the upper, outer quadrants of the breasts.

Underwire bras probably play a part too. Tehy can block the lymph channels and thus any toxins or bad cells stick around under the arm & build up.

16 posted on 01/11/2005 8:07:42 PM PST by valkyrieanne (card-carrying South Park Republican)
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To: cosine

Let's have a serious discussion. I was posing a possibility. I did not say that antiperspirants(not deodorants) caused cancer but I do think it is worth investigating.

Serious question: Why do you think that burn victims with over 70% die so quickly -- when it is only the skin that is burned? What makes the skin such a vital organ? Do you know? What organ gets overwhelmed & fails when the skin quits doing its job?

Yes, genes are proving important but they are not the only factor for breast cancer.


17 posted on 01/12/2005 1:00:11 AM PST by Kay
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To: NormsRevenge
Breast cancer, like anything else, is mostly due to your family genes. And more women getting checkups detect the disease earlier. There is also a better chance to live because the treatments are so much better.
18 posted on 01/12/2005 1:09:50 AM PST by kcvl
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To: Kay
Serious question: Why do you think that burn victims with over 70% die so quickly -- when it is only the skin that is burned? What makes the skin such a vital organ? Do you know? What organ gets overwhelmed & fails when the skin quits doing its job?

Only the skin! What do you think keeps various infectious micro organisms out of your body?
19 posted on 01/12/2005 2:41:57 PM PST by cosine
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No. What organ failure causes the demise of a patient before infection sets in? Infection takes a few days to set in.


20 posted on 01/12/2005 3:31:24 PM PST by Kay
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