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12 Missing After Calif. Mudslide
Yahoo News ^ | 1/10/05 | JEFF WILSON, AP

Posted on 01/10/2005 6:42:33 PM PST by kattracks

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To: cyborg
It is sad. Across the freeway, is a great beach. Its a heck of a traffic problem getting in and out of there. But, darn, the hillside is a threat to life and limb.
41 posted on 01/10/2005 7:49:13 PM PST by hoot2
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To: RKV
" ...paint my lawn green... "

Thats too funny. Do you live in Santa Barbara? They had to do that a few years back when there was a severe water shortage.

42 posted on 01/10/2005 7:53:38 PM PST by hoot2
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To: claptrap

The risk of mortality is higher from tornados in the midwest than from earthquakes and wildfires here in CA. Statistical fact. We get a lot of media attention. The rest of the country does the dying and/or destruction. And you can keep the snowy winters too. Only wish we could figure out a way to send the liberals back home to you. Somehow they all want to move here and cr@p the place up. I wish Ron Reagan were governor again.


43 posted on 01/10/2005 7:54:53 PM PST by RKV ( He who has the guns, makes the rules.)
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To: hoot2

Yep. The neighborhood is called San Roque - off of upper (western) State Street.


44 posted on 01/10/2005 7:56:30 PM PST by RKV ( He who has the guns, makes the rules.)
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To: RKV

I take that back Claptrap. I dont want to send the liberals back to you personally. I just remember growing up here, when this wasnt the land of fruits and nuts.


45 posted on 01/10/2005 8:00:55 PM PST by RKV ( He who has the guns, makes the rules.)
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To: RKV
Only wish we could figure out a way to send the liberals back home to you. Somehow they all want to move here and cr@p the place up. I wish Ron Reagan were governor again.

ROTFLOL!! I love it! and BTTT!

46 posted on 01/10/2005 8:00:58 PM PST by kstewskis ( you have to have a mind before you lose it....)
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To: missyme

We get winters like this every decade or so due to a phenomena called "el nino" or what they're calling it now "pineapple express"... or a type of move in the jet stream which moves warm water and weather into southern california.

We had one in 1982, 1987, 1994/5, and this year.

1982 was especially destructive. I live in Long Beach and that winter we had 25 foot surf, the Seal Beach pier was destroyed, part of the breakwater at the Seal Beach naval weapons station and the port of long beach was destroyed... dozens of houses were washed out on their bottom floor, etc.

I almost had my car washed out in an intersection last night due to flooding in the streets.

See... southern California is a flood plain. When we get really nasty storms... there is no place for the water to go since its so developed and the flood control basins are way too small. Coyote Creek which runs right by my house was almost cresting over the top last night... and today you guys might have seen those crazy videos of the man being rescued from coyote creek (concrete river basin) and lost his pants... but escaped with his life.


47 posted on 01/10/2005 8:04:19 PM PST by Andrew LB
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To: Andrew LB
1982 was especially destructive. I live in Long Beach and that winter we had 25 foot surf, the Seal Beach pier was destroyed, part of the breakwater at the Seal Beach naval weapons station and the port of long beach was destroyed... dozens of houses were washed out on their bottom floor, etc.

And there was 6 feet of new snow in Big Bear. We skied through early April that year :D

48 posted on 01/10/2005 8:16:34 PM PST by kstewskis ( you have to have a mind before you lose it....)
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To: cyborg; missyme

.....maybe I should start going to Church just in case.


49 posted on 01/10/2005 8:17:50 PM PST by Destro (Know your enemy! Help fight Islamic terrorism by visiting johnathangaltfilms.com and jihadwatch.org)
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To: Destro

Well yes couldn't hurt any! lol


50 posted on 01/10/2005 8:21:06 PM PST by cyborg (http://mentalmumblings.blogspot.com/)
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To: cyborg

Just in case my rational side is wrong.


51 posted on 01/10/2005 8:26:39 PM PST by Destro (Know your enemy! Help fight Islamic terrorism by visiting johnathangaltfilms.com and jihadwatch.org)
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To: kattracks

I remember when the last La Conchita mudslide happened very well. In fact, over Christmas, I was in the area visiting my family and I pointed out to my husband how they had never actually dug out the houses that were crushed in the first slide. You could see their remains ten years later sticking out of the hill.

I guess you can't see them anymore.

Prayers for all involved, and sincere hopes that the remaining La Conchita residents will take this as their cue to move to a safer spot.


52 posted on 01/10/2005 8:27:08 PM PST by LibertyGirl77
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To: Destro

http://www.peterkreeft.com/topics/pascals-wager.htm


53 posted on 01/10/2005 8:28:48 PM PST by cyborg (http://mentalmumblings.blogspot.com/)
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To: cyborg

I have always condsidered my faith to be along the lines of what Pascal's Wager states - it is pretty much how the Mongols viewed the spiritual world.


54 posted on 01/10/2005 8:38:04 PM PST by Destro (Know your enemy! Help fight Islamic terrorism by visiting johnathangaltfilms.com and jihadwatch.org)
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To: Destro

I am a Roman Catholic BUT if I sit back and think about it, I have zero to lose by believing in God anyway.


55 posted on 01/10/2005 8:40:10 PM PST by cyborg (http://mentalmumblings.blogspot.com/)
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To: kstewskis

I was too young to remember... but in 1997 i recall skiing in Mammoth, CA on the 4th of July!!!!!


They were playing Volleyball at the mid-Chalet and i was skiing in my snowboard pants and a t-shirt. It was amazing.

They had a 25' base.


56 posted on 01/10/2005 8:44:36 PM PST by Andrew LB
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To: steveo
They did this months ago and you're blaming the curent storm on that?

The process for seeding clouds involves silver iodide, which precipitates into the atmosphere, affecting storms for many months to come. It isn't a one time deal. One seeding can last many months to come, which is why the government will not acknowledge damage caused by the storms many months after the cloud seeding.

Source = my bf. He told me in the fall what to expect. He was right...

57 posted on 01/10/2005 8:48:07 PM PST by TheSpottedOwl
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To: kattracks

This same area had a mudslide like this one 10 years ago and houses were buried under mud as well as a 1948 Woodie Classic Car.


58 posted on 01/10/2005 8:48:10 PM PST by celtic gal
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To: RKV

It wouldn't even be a good campsite. 10 Years ago when there was this same sort of mudslide, the campsite along this same freeway washed out to sea.


59 posted on 01/10/2005 8:50:36 PM PST by celtic gal
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To: rintense

Thanks, rintense...I'm just fine. We're faring FAR better than a lot of communities.


60 posted on 01/10/2005 8:56:09 PM PST by Brad’s Gramma (Proud Patriots dot ORG!!! Operation Valentine's Day!!)
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