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Old map ignites battle over future of tiny Spreckels (CA)
Contra Costa Times ^
| 19 December 2004
| Ken McLaughlin
Posted on 01/10/2005 5:36:30 PM PST by Lorianne
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posted on
01/10/2005 5:36:31 PM PST
by
Lorianne
To: Lorianne
Leave the town alone.
Wasn't Kay Spreckles Clark Gable's widow and the mother of his son?
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posted on
01/10/2005 5:42:18 PM PST
by
freekitty
To: Lorianne
Rep. Sam Farr, D-Salinas, has dubbed the practice of digging up old maps "environmental terrorism."Liberals are so pathetic.
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posted on
01/10/2005 5:45:29 PM PST
by
Psycho_Bunny
(“I know a great deal about the Middle East because I’ve been raising Arabian horses" Patrick Swazey)
To: farmfriend
To: freekitty
Kitty, that son was 5 years old when Kay married Gable in 1955. Anthony "Bunker" Spreckles grew up to become a notorious 70s-era surfer who lived a jet setting, hedonistic lifestyle that culminated in his death by drug overdose in 1976.
To: Psycho_Bunny
Rep. Sam Farr, D-Salinas, has dubbed the practice of digging up old maps "environmental terrorism." Liberals are so pathetic.
Tell that to the Freepers who post thier "porn is terrorism", and "evolution is terrorism" threads.
To: rmmcdaniell
I don't necessarily expect adult behavior, moderate to advanced cognitive reasoning or an ability to parse concepts on a public board.I do expect it from people who presume to lead me.
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posted on
01/10/2005 6:10:05 PM PST
by
Psycho_Bunny
(“I know a great deal about the Middle East because I’ve been raising Arabian horses" Patrick Swazey)
To: Lorianne
When you stop building houses, you have homeless people...
To: Psycho_Bunny
Sam Farr is a communist...
To: rmmcdaniell
Pornography is an idolatry of perversion...
To: Carry_Okie
To: Carry_Okie
ping-a-rooni part II...
Looks like Gary Patton is up to his old tricks...
To: Lorianne
That old "general store" isn't much of a store nowadays.
I used to stop there a few times a year, just to look, grab a soda, or something.
(going northbound on 101, if headed to Monterey, one can by-pass Salinas by going through Spreckels...)
The last time--I was amazed how barren the store was.
It's been going downhill for some time now.
Coming back from Monterey,
towards Salinas (on CA 68), a little ways past the Spreckels turn off, on the other side of the road, one of the first little places
one comes to is an old gas station, pumping gas, making & selling
deli sandwiches (and various other, much of it "mex" style foods), beer, etc.
Crammed packed, that joint. Packed with customers, too.
I feel sort of sad about that Spreckels store.
Don't know if I'd sink money into it myself,
but for someone out there---?
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posted on
01/10/2005 7:59:57 PM PST
by
7MMmag
(they always ask, "where'd ya get 'em at?ANSWER"behind the fore-leg, about half-way down the ribcage")
To: Lorianne; abbi_normal_2; Ace2U; adam_az; Alamo-Girl; Alas; alfons; alphadog; amom; AndreaZingg; ...
Rights, farms, environment ping.
Let me know if you wish to be added or removed from this list.
I don't get offended if you want to be removed.
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posted on
01/10/2005 8:12:12 PM PST
by
farmfriend
( Congratulation. You are everything we've come to expect from years of government training.)
To: Lorianne
The flap over the map stems from the closing of the Spreckels Sugar Co. plant in 1982. The company then sold farmland next to town to the prominent Tanimura family. For decades the family -- but few in town -- knew about the 1907 map. It didn't become an issue until the family decided to plant housing on the site rather than lettuce. How DARE they do legal things with their own property! They're acting like they OWN it, or something...
</sarcasm>
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posted on
01/10/2005 9:05:03 PM PST
by
solitas
To: freekitty
The silly development restriction rules in California are what keep the house prices sky high. These guys had to scheme this much in order to build a measily 73 (or whatever homes) - and they'll be fought over it (incurring costs) for years!
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posted on
01/10/2005 9:24:14 PM PST
by
glorgau
To: Lorianne
"It's quiet and unique -- the historical treasure of Monterey County," said Teresa Cerna, 70.
"Why can't we leave just one town just the way it is?" I emphatically agree, leave this charming town alone!
Full disclosure, I used to live in Spreckels, just a tad over 50 yrs ago.
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posted on
01/10/2005 9:35:05 PM PST
by
Seaplaner
(Never give in. Never give in. Never...except to convictions of honour and good sense. W. Churchill)
To: farmfriend
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posted on
01/11/2005 3:04:31 AM PST
by
E.G.C.
To: Seaplaner
"Why can't we leave just one town just the way it is?"
Buldoze the whole town and build out the whole thing new!
Personally I can't see how anyone can live in that old crap!
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posted on
01/11/2005 3:22:27 AM PST
by
dalereed
To: farmfriend; 1Old Pro; aardvark1; a_federalist; abner; alaskanfan; alloysteel; alfons; ...
"Who knows how many other maps like that are out there?" Panetta asked. The County Recorder knows.
No 'loop holes' are necessary; all those accepted maps are valid; the constitution says so, and that creates a contract.
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posted on
01/11/2005 9:03:11 AM PST
by
editor-surveyor
(The Lord has given us President Bush; let's now turn this nation back to him)
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