longjack
Posted on 01/10/2005 5:15:43 PM PST by mhking
Prisoners were often eliminated with a bullet to the head, but one witness told the London-based human rights group Indict that inmates were sometimes murdered by being dropped into shredding machines. Some prisoners went in head first and died quickly, while others were put in feet first and died screaming. The witness said that on at least one occasion, Qusay supervised shredding-machine murders.Oh wait ...., that was BEFORE we went in. Never mind.On another occasion, a witness said, an inmate's foot was cut off in a prison torture room while Qusay was present.
"The amputation had been carried out with a power saw during his torture under the direct supervision of Qusay ," the witness told Indict.
There WAS genuine torture going on in Abu Ghraib prison and there IS video of it. It dates from the era of Saddam Hussein...
longjack
Some of our captive soldiers had their pants pulled down and were killed BEFORE we had control of Abu Ghraib.
Why is there no justice for our POWs?
Do you recall the name of the other longtime antiwar nut who leaked the photos to CBS?
There's the theory that the highest decorated member of the US military had them sent to his website and then he gave them to Mary Mapes...not naming names here, 'cos there's no proof.
I always thought you'd probably see a lot worse than that on any weekend at the Kennedy Kriminal Kompound.
Abu ghraib was not torture. What Jack Bauer to the interrogation suspect on Sunday's "24" was far worse than anything even alleged against any Abu Ghraib defendent. throw them out of the service, sure, because they are perverts and are more suited to be key grips on the "Girls Gone Wild" set, but they shouldn't serve one day of prison time. Ridiculous.
Better yet, why did the London Times decide to promote this guy to Sergeant?
As for the pyramid argument, it was pretty good for a turd shining effort.
Sorry, I don't.
That one gentleman seems to be enjoying the view.
Go Buckeyes!
Seymour Hersh had them first.
What an idiot. Someone needs to tell this guy it doesn't pay to insult the intelligence of a military jury. Unles maybe he's TRYING for an incompetent counsel appeal...
OK, Graner's officially toast, if for no other reason than he drew an incredibly inept lawyer. (BTW, from what I've read, Graner was the real rotten egg in this scandal).
So when he and his girlfriend were creating their own little pornographic movies in front of the inmates, let me guess, he was ordered to do that too right?
I bet Rummy himself sat down with Graner and England and ordered them to set up their own little version of the Playboy mansion...
/roll eyes
Well, the guy that shot the terrorist pretending to be wounded in the Mosque or the other that put a burning terrorist out of his misery with a quick bullet were one thing, and it is shameful that the military is not giving them more support...
But these two clowns deserve to have the book thrown at them.
I've seen the name of the man who helped coordinate the press for the story. He worked with one of the accused and CBS.
It just escapes me for the moment. It is no "theory", there was an article about his involvement.
There was another trial in an unrelated case last week and the soldier got a slap on the wrist (the press did not seem too happy). The jury gave him minimal sentencing.
I just want to see the trial of Sgt. Akbar get at LEAST this much publicity since he murdered several US officers back in 2003 and wounded over a dozen more. The men he killed are on the Washington Post's "Bush Lied, Men Died" list which has to be among the biggest insults. (Note: the WP may not refer to the list as such but other antiwar agit prop sites do and we all know the purpose; were were their death tolls in Clinton's wars?).
Depends on how high the pile is; pressing under heavy weights was a common medieval torture. That said, most of what's been described looks more like small-minded bullying than torture and makes us look, not brutal, but petty.
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