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Manning AP's MVP for Second Straight Year
AP via TBO ^ | 1/10/05 | BARRY WILNER

Posted on 01/10/2005 7:57:52 AM PST by agenda_express

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Congratulations, Peyton.
1 posted on 01/10/2005 7:57:53 AM PST by agenda_express
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To: agenda_express

someone want to tell me why he wasnt unanimous?

I mean come on.....


2 posted on 01/10/2005 8:00:05 AM PST by MikefromOhio (DO I need a new screen name? I am no longer in Iraq :) 3 to keep 2 to change so far)
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To: MikeinIraq

How did Vick get a vote in a down year for him?


3 posted on 01/10/2005 8:00:59 AM PST by AppyPappy (If You're Not A Part Of The Solution, There's Good Money To Be Made In Prolonging The Problem.)
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To: MikeinIraq

At least he isn't the "co" MVP. That was ridiculous.


4 posted on 01/10/2005 8:02:13 AM PST by agenda_express
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To: AppyPappy

well any other year, I would say Vick was a top candidate, but what Vick did is good, Peyton broke unbreakable records....


5 posted on 01/10/2005 8:02:20 AM PST by MikefromOhio (DO I need a new screen name? I am no longer in Iraq :) 3 to keep 2 to change so far)
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To: agenda_express

yeah it was....

just pick one!!!

I would have given it to McNair though.......this year showed that without McNair (and yes Eddie George), the Titans didnt go anywhere...


6 posted on 01/10/2005 8:03:26 AM PST by MikefromOhio (DO I need a new screen name? I am no longer in Iraq :) 3 to keep 2 to change so far)
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To: MikeinIraq

-- PASSING -- -- RUSHING --
YEAR CMP ATT YDS CMP% YPA LNG TD INT SACK RAT ATT YDS AVG LNG TD
2004 181 321 2313 56.4 7.21 62 14 12 46.0 78.1 120 902 7.5 58 3

14 TD's with 12 picks. His rushing numbers are amazing.


7 posted on 01/10/2005 8:04:32 AM PST by AppyPappy (If You're Not A Part Of The Solution, There's Good Money To Be Made In Prolonging The Problem.)
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To: AppyPappy

yeah

but the MVP is more than just stats.....

Either way though, playstation type stats will trump what you did for your team.

Give Vick another year or two and I think he will be winning them.....


8 posted on 01/10/2005 8:05:54 AM PST by MikefromOhio (DO I need a new screen name? I am no longer in Iraq :) 3 to keep 2 to change so far)
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To: MikeinIraq

You don't need a gypsy to figure out the Rookie of the Year this year.


9 posted on 01/10/2005 8:06:16 AM PST by AppyPappy (If You're Not A Part Of The Solution, There's Good Money To Be Made In Prolonging The Problem.)
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To: agenda_express

If Manning can't win this week against a Patriot secondary that is plagued with injuries, he's no mvp.


10 posted on 01/10/2005 8:06:37 AM PST by jimfrommaine
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Give Vick another year or two and I think he will be winning them.....

Not unless he can get his completion percentage over 60%. He has never really come close.

11 posted on 01/10/2005 8:07:05 AM PST by KJacob (If I yawn it is only in anticipation.)
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To: AppyPappy

yeah especially because its already been awarded :P


12 posted on 01/10/2005 8:08:02 AM PST by MikefromOhio (DO I need a new screen name? I am no longer in Iraq :) 3 to keep 2 to change so far)
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To: MikeinIraq

This may be Vick's last fully healthy year.

His brother Marcus is vying for the VT QB job this spring.


13 posted on 01/10/2005 8:08:15 AM PST by AppyPappy (If You're Not A Part Of The Solution, There's Good Money To Be Made In Prolonging The Problem.)
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To: jimfrommaine

Depends on the defense, too, though. If their D comes to play, it will be a Colts "W".


14 posted on 01/10/2005 8:08:15 AM PST by agenda_express
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To: KJacob

I think he can....

I think the only think that will stop him is his scrambling. If he doesnt get killed, he will do that probably next year.

If Tim Couch can do it, certainly Vick can.....


15 posted on 01/10/2005 8:09:54 AM PST by MikefromOhio (DO I need a new screen name? I am no longer in Iraq :) 3 to keep 2 to change so far)
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To: AppyPappy

Possibly...you never know...

I think that if he does get hurt running, that will improve him as a QB....

The same thing happened to McNair. REmember how he was in college? Know he is one of the best QBs in the league.....


16 posted on 01/10/2005 8:10:51 AM PST by MikefromOhio (DO I need a new screen name? I am no longer in Iraq :) 3 to keep 2 to change so far)
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To: MikeinIraq

Had to pick on Couch didn't you? I know you are a Browns fan but Couch led them to the playoffs in the year Holcolm got all the credit. If Vick has not developed accuracy yet I wonder if he ever will. That is something you get long before your forth year in the pros.


17 posted on 01/10/2005 8:12:41 AM PST by KJacob (If I yawn it is only in anticipation.)
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To: KJacob

You see I think that in the west coast, Vick will need a year to adjust...

Couch sucked. Of course he was running for his life half of the time so who really knows right? :)

Of course I picked couch...I still have his jersey


18 posted on 01/10/2005 8:14:03 AM PST by MikefromOhio (DO I need a new screen name? I am no longer in Iraq :) 3 to keep 2 to change so far)
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To: agenda_express

I like the Colts pass rush. But I think Dillon will run for 150 yards against them, Patriots will eat up time of possession. It'll be like the Bills-Giants superbowl. By controlling the clock ,the Patriot defensive front 7 who are the best in football, will be able to blitz and put pressure on Manning. If the Colts can shut down Dillon, time of possession evens out. And if Manning up to the challenge could throw for 400 yards against that secondary. The key will be to tire out the Patriots front 7.


19 posted on 01/10/2005 8:14:53 AM PST by jimfrommaine
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To: agenda_express

The Chargers could've had him. They took Ryan Leaf instead also known as Mr. $20 million pissed away.

Peyton seems like a decent fellow but his rookie brother and old man are asses.


20 posted on 01/10/2005 8:15:21 AM PST by newzjunkey (Demand Mexico Turnover Fugitive Murderers: http://www.escapingjustice.com)
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