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To Try to Net Killer, Police Ask a Small Town's Men for DNA
NY Times ^ | January 10, 2005 | PAM BELLUCK

Posted on 01/10/2005 3:59:18 AM PST by Pharmboy

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To: Pharmboy
Sgt. David Perry of the Truro Police Department and other law enforcement authorities here say that the program is voluntary but that they will pay close attention to those who refuse to provide DNA.

Friggin' Nazis.

41 posted on 01/10/2005 7:40:57 AM PST by Petronski (I'm *not* always cranky.)
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To: Petronski

Judge: "Where's your evidence that the Defendant is guilty??

Cop: "He says he didn't do it, Your Honor."


42 posted on 01/10/2005 7:43:38 AM PST by daylate-dollarshort (s/v Musashi I)
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To: daylate-dollarshort
Zere's no reason not to cooperate, citizen, if you have nossing to hide. </ThickGermanAccent>
43 posted on 01/10/2005 7:46:03 AM PST by Petronski (I'm *not* always cranky.)
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To: Pharmboy
Sgt. David Perry of the Truro Police Department and other law enforcement authorities here say that the program is voluntary but that they will pay close attention to those who refuse to provide DNA.

Disgusting police state tactics. Give them DNA samples from lizards and birds and hope their machines choke on them.

44 posted on 01/10/2005 7:47:09 AM PST by Centurion2000 (Nations do not survive by setting examples for others. Nations survive by making examples of others)
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To: Petronski
>Friggin' Nazis

You mis-read the post.
They're not rounding up people
and transporting them

to forced-labor camps.
And they are not gassing Jews
and Gypsies. They're just

sampling DNA
which causes no pain and might
capture a killer.

Yeah, we're all upset
the Packers lost. But drinking
this early is bad . . .

45 posted on 01/10/2005 7:47:18 AM PST by theFIRMbss
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To: theFIRMbss

You know nothing about the nature of a police state. I recommend reading...lots of reading.


I'd love to discuss it with you, but you insist on filtering all your thoughts through those half-assed haikus.


46 posted on 01/10/2005 7:48:39 AM PST by Petronski (I'm *not* always cranky.)
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To: Pharmboy
The police say they will discard any DNA that does not match their sample and will not keep a databank.

This being a small town any "Who's your Daddy" surprises will leak out.

47 posted on 01/10/2005 7:53:42 AM PST by Reeses
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To: theFIRMbss
They're just sampling DNA which causes no pain and might capture a killer.

Amendment IV The right of the people to be secure in their persons, houses, papers, and effects, against unreasonable searches and seizures, shall not be violated, and no warrants shall issue, but upon probable cause, supported by oath or affirmation, and particularly describing the place to be searched, and the persons or things to be seized.

I guess this just menas nothing to you, yes ?

48 posted on 01/10/2005 7:54:47 AM PST by Centurion2000 (Nations do not survive by setting examples for others. Nations survive by making examples of others)
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>You know nothing about the nature of a police state

I know a little.
And I know that local police
shouldn't be compared

to Nazis monsters.
And it's better to filter
through haikus than beer.

49 posted on 01/10/2005 7:55:06 AM PST by theFIRMbss
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To: theFIRMbss

You're right that you know 'a little.' If the local police behave like a Nazi (a Gestapo man, specifically), they must be compared to a Nazi.


But you're wrong to call them haikus. Merely using a 5-7-5 syllable pattern does not a haiku make.


50 posted on 01/10/2005 7:58:53 AM PST by Petronski (I'm *not* always cranky.)
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To: Reeses
The police say they will discard any DNA that does not match their sample and will not keep a databank.

And anyone who believes this quote is naive beyond description.

51 posted on 01/10/2005 8:01:37 AM PST by Petronski (I'm *not* always cranky.)
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To: Pharmboy

I would have no problem with this if there was any way to assure that the samples don't go in some DNA database after each donor is ruled out. It's voluntary and it may help catch a killer. Trouble is, I'm not sure there is a way that I could be convinced that the sample would be destroyed after I was ruled out as a suspect.


52 posted on 01/10/2005 8:01:49 AM PST by joebuck
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To: Glenn
And how did you determine from the article that he is a lib?

Uh, well, I guess he could be one of those rare Massachusetts conservatives.

53 posted on 01/10/2005 8:08:44 AM PST by iconoclast (Conservative, not partisan.)
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To: Pharmboy

ACLU is 100% right on this one. This crosses the line big time, as do most 4th Amendment issues of the last 50 years. If they want to do this kind of crap for any reason, including drugs or terrorism, they have to amend the Constitution.


54 posted on 01/10/2005 8:12:16 AM PST by mysterio
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To: daylate-dollarshort
Judge: "Where's your evidence that the Defendant is guilty??

Cop: "He says he didn't do it, Your Honor."

Martha Stewart isn't laughing.

55 posted on 01/10/2005 8:12:21 AM PST by iconoclast (Conservative, not partisan.)
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"Martha Stewart isn't laughing."

Oh how true.........

56 posted on 01/10/2005 8:54:52 AM PST by daylate-dollarshort (s/v Musashi I)
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To: Lazamataz

Yep, string him up, he did it. :)


57 posted on 01/10/2005 2:27:40 PM PST by LibertarianInExile (NO BLOOD FOR CHOCOLATE! Get the UN-ignoring, unilateralist Frogs out of Ivory Coast!)
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To: EBH

What about if every car going down a road was searched...or every person going into a plane was searched...or every person getting a check cashed at a bank not their own was fingerprinted...or every person taking a job that had to deal with kids had to be fingerprinted?

Infringements on the right to be free from unreasonable search and seizure that happen every day because enough folks think it's just fine. This is just one more step, this voluntary DNA id'ing. We'll see which other towns try it since they have an example now.


58 posted on 01/10/2005 2:32:05 PM PST by LibertarianInExile (NO BLOOD FOR CHOCOLATE! Get the UN-ignoring, unilateralist Frogs out of Ivory Coast!)
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To: ThirstyMan

Why stop there? We could just implant radio transmitters in everyone's butt-cheek at birth.


59 posted on 01/10/2005 2:38:37 PM PST by Liberal Classic (No better friend, no worse enemy. Semper Fi.)
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