Posted on 01/10/2005 3:40:45 AM PST by Klickitat
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I hate to say it, but I firmly believe our country is headed for a civil war: all the political, societal, and cultural trends are pointing in that direction. And it's going to be ugly!
Any American, Republican or Democrat, that continues to advocate the legalization of illegal immigrants is, whether they know it or not, espousing the destruction of America. And that makes them effectively traitors to our country.
Listen to the comments about/by this Gutierrez fellow WHom I had met several times at the University of Texas at Arlington and one realizes that the Marxist left is piggy-backing on illegal Mexican immigration as part of an effort to drive whites out of the Southwest and eventually all of North America:
http://www.frontpagemag.com/Articles/ReadArticle.asp?ID=13654
Mr Gutierrez is a Mexican racist, and from the link in the article we can find this said about him:
"MAYO styles itself the embodiment of good and the Anglo-American as the incarnation of evil. That is not merely ridiculous, it is drawing fire from the deepest wellsprings of hate. The San Antonio leader of MAYO, Jose Angel Gutierrez, may think himself something of a hero, but he is, in fact, only a benighted soul if he believes that in the espousal of hatred he will find love. He is simply deluded if he believes that the wearing of fatigues . . . makes his followers revolutionaries . . . One cannot fan the flames of bigotry one moment and expect them to disappear the next. (Nativist and Racist Movements in the U.S. and their Aftermath, Yale-New Haven Teachers Institute, Henry A. Rhodes)
And Gutierrez says this himself:
We are the future of America. Unlike any prior generation, we now have the critical mass. Were going to Latinize this country.
"The border remains a military zone. We remain a hunted people. Now you think you have a destiny to fulfill in the land that historically has been ours for forty thousand years. And we're a new Mestizo nation. And they want us to discuss civil rights. Civil rights. What law made by white men to oppress all of us of color, female and male. This is our homeland. We cannotwe will notand we must not be made illegal in our own homeland. We are not immigrants that came from another country to another country. We are migrants, free to travel the length and breadth of the Americas because we belong here. We are millions. We just have to survive. We have an aging white America. They are not making babies. They are dying. It's a matter of time. The explosion is in our population." [listen here]
If a white English-speaking American expresses displeasure over the prediction that his ethnic group (if present trends continue) is destined to lose its majority status, he will be called a racist.
"We have got to eliminate the gringo, and what I mean by that is if the worst comes to the worst, we have got to kill him."
Q: If the main goal (of the old Chicano movement) then was to reclaim Aztlan and control all the institutions of civil society, what is the main goal now?
GUTIERREZ answer: I think it is still the same thing. You hear the Hispanic Republicans talk about the same thing.
this idea has even been co-opted by the Republicans.
.The Hispanic Democrats and Mexican-American Democrats and Tejano Democrats, synonymous in Texas, they are doing the same thing
..
Q: How are Mexican immigrants of today different from Mexican immigrants of decades ago?
GUTIERREZ: They are different in one salient aspect
they are keeping their Mexicanness. ..The Mexicanos that are coming today, even though they are political refugees and migrants returning to their homeland, are keeping their Mexicanness ... They are recreating Mexico here. I think they are doing it because of the sheer numbers.
Q: What is irredentism [ethnic nationalism], and what evidence do you see that it is happening?
Gutierrez: The evidence is their display of their Mexicanness.
These folks now are engaged in active political activity in the U.S. which is unprecedented. They are truly binational citizens. It's not uncommon to see undocumented Mexicans protesting in front of INS in downtown Dallas.
.They have also now gotten dual citizenship.
[The] Chicano generation
only wanted to carve out half of [19th-century Mexico]
. These folks want it all. They want to recreate all of Mexico and join all of Mexico into one. And they are going to do that, even if it's just demographically
They are going to have political sovereignty over the Southwest and many parts of the Midwest.
Mr. Bush has to wake up , we cant continue to allow these people to come and go as they please.
This is all about the Powers That Be wanting to dilute our workforce's wages and benefits. Bush is 100 percent for this. He knows what this is doing to our country, so it's not a matter of his "waking up." He will never give it up. The question is whether or not patriotic citizens in this country will WAKE UP and force our leaders to stop it.
xen'o'pho'bi'a (noun)
an intense fear or dislike of foreign people, their customs and culture, or foreign things
Or, one day we will wake up and not be America!
Pronunciation: 'trA-t&r Function: noun Etymology: Middle English traitre, from Old French, from Latin traditor, from tradere to hand over, deliver, betray, from trans-, tra- trans- + dare to give -- more at DATE 1 : one who betrays another's trust or is false to an obligation or duty 2 : one who commits treason
Main Entry: trea·son
Pronunciation: 'trE-z&n Function: noun Etymology: Middle English tresoun, from Old French traison, from Latin tradition-, traditio act of handing over, from tradere to hand over, betray -- more at TRAITOR 1 : the betrayal of a trust : TREACHERY 2 : the offense of attempting by overt acts to overthrow the government of the state to which the offender owes allegiance or to kill or personally injure the sovereign or the sovereign's family.
I haven't bothered to look up the definition of Race Monger/Baiter yet, but I'm sure you'll fit right in. This is a Sovereign Nation bub. Are you scared yet? Blackbird.
"Shortly after 10:00 p.m. on March 14, 2000, two Mexican
Army High Mobility Multipurpose Wheeled Vehicles (HMMWVs or Humvees) carrying about sixteen armed soldiers drove across the international boundary and into the United States near Santa Teresa, New Mexico, approximately fifteen miles west of El Paso, Texas. The vehicles pursued a Border Patrol Ford Expedition outfitted with decals and emergency lights (which were activated for
much of the pursuit) over a mile into the United States.
The lead vehicle, containing nine soldiers armed with
seven automatic assault rifles, one submachine gun, and
two .45 caliber pistols, was apprehended by the Border
Patrol. The second vehicle pursued a Border Patrol agent
on horseback and fired a shot at him. The soldiers then
disembarked from the vehicle, fired upon one more Border
Patrol agent and chased another agent before fleeing to
Mexico in their vehicle."
-Local 1929, National Border Patrol Council,
Mar. 21, 2000
American police officers have been intentionally fired on by
foreign troops who illegally invaded the U.S. - and outside of the
Southwest, "mainstream" U.S. dailies haven't talked about it in the
two weeks since - in spite of a very-detailed two-page press
release by Local 1929, which represents area Border Patrol
personnel. There is no real doubt as to what happened; even the
Mexican government isn't denying it - but are calling the incident
"a regrettable error."
It was the 47th time Mexican troops have illegally entered the
U.S. since 1995 - but the first time they fired on U.S. officers,
according to the Mar. 24, 2000 El Paso Times.
According to another local of the National Border Patrol
Council, Local 1613, the incident - and supervisory personnel's
handling of it by giving the Mexicans in one Humvee that got stuck
in a sand dune their guns and Humvee back and telling them to go
back to Mexico - has scared Border Patrol agents nationwide into no longer doing their jobs as completely; the way that Local 1613 put it in a news release Mar. 17 was that "many agents have expressed their willingness to reduce their current personal level of
enforcement activities to insure their own safety."
According to that El Paso Times article, the border at the
location involved is obvious - a fence with a road on each side for
patrolling - and the Mexican troops knocked down a fence with their vehicles. And as if who they were chasing - and shooting at -
wouldn't have been totally-obvious to anyone who hadn't had too
much tequila, local Sunland City, New Mexico police had their
flashing lights on when they responded to one of the
confrontations, but the Mexican troops fired on a mounted Border
Patrol agent anyway.
According to a Border Patrol source in that area, the nine Mexican troops who were briefly detained did not appear intoxicated - making very dubious any contention that they either didn't know that they had crossed the border or that they were firing at Border Patrol agents. Agents there speculate that the incident involved either the $200,000 bounty that Mexican drug cartels are offering for the murder of any U.S. federal agent - or the Mexican troops guarding a narcotics shipment.
On Mar. 17, Local 1613 of the National Border Patrol Council
put out a press release demanding the resignation of Luis Barker -
the Border Patrol supervisor who made the decision to let the
Mexican troops take themselves, their guns, and their Humvee back
to Mexico. It added that Local 1929 and the El Paso lodge of the
Fraternal Order of Police also were demanding Barker quit.
Cris Stewart, a resident of nearby Sunland Park, put it aptly:
"We could have gotten into a war with Mexico over something like
this." That is hardly an exaggeration; another invasion by New
Mexico by Mexican troops this century - that of 1916 by Pancho
Villa's forces raiding a small town - ended in then-U.S. Pres.
Woodrow Wilson having Gen. Blackjack Pershing raid Mexico to get Pancho Villa's forces away from the U.S. border.
The phrase Americans used to remember about the Mexican threat
always had been "Remember the Alamo." It should be changed to
"Remember Santa Teresa."
A similar incident happened in Copper Canyon, California on Oct. 24, 2000.
State Department travel warnings issued on Mexico in 1998 make
clear that Mexico is far from the image that travel agents and
"study-abroad" programs portray - instead, Mexico is a country that
should come with a warning label.
Of all countries popular with American tourists, only Mexico
has the State Department issuing warnings of frequent hijackings of
buses by nonpolitical bandits and uniformed police officers
commonly being perpetrators of serious crimes against tourists:
"In several cases, tourists report that uniformed police
are the crime perpetrators, stopping vehicles and seeking
money or assaulting and robbing tourists walking late at
night."
"All bus travel should be done during daylight and on
first-class conveyances. These buses travel on "toll"
roads that have a markedly lower rate of incidents than
buses (second and third class) that travel the less
secure "free" highways. While many of the assaults have
occurred in daylight, the Embassy nevertheless encourages
daytime travel to lower the chance of auto accidents."
The State Department particularly warns women about an upsurge in
rapes of tourists:
"During 1998, criminal activity in Mexico City continued
at 1996 and 1997's high rates, with marked increase in
the level of violence of the crimes committed, including
what appears to be a significant incidence of sexual
assaults in crimes committed against women."
Kidnappings for abduction are now a major risk in Mexico:
"Kidnapping, including the kidnapping of non-Mexicans, is
increasing. U.S. businesses with offices in Mexico or
concerned U.S. citizens may contact the U.S. Embassy to
discuss precautions to take."
Tourists are warned of a major risk of having drinks drugged by
thieves in Mexican nightclubs:
"U.S. citizens are advised to be careful when ordering
beverages in local nightclubs and bars, especially at
night. Some establishments may contaminate or drug the
drinks to gain control over the patron. Victims, who are
almost always unaccompanied, have been robbed of personal
property and abducted and held while their credit cards
were used at various businesses and ATM locations around
the city."
Driving in Mexico is very dangerous, due to bandit attacks:
"Travelers to Mexico should exercise caution when
traveling on all highways in Mexico. Of specific concern
are Highway 190 (Tuxtla to Tapachula), Highway 195
(Tuxtla to Villahermosa), Highway 186 (Chetumal to
Villahermosa), Highway 15 (Sinaloa), Express Highway 1
(Sinaloa), and the highway from Altamirano to
Ixtapa/Zihuatanejo. These highways have seen particularly
high levels of criminal assaults recently. Reported
incidents include robbery, kidnapping and the 1998 murder
of an Egyptian diplomat. The U.S. Embassy advises its
personnel to exercise extreme caution and not to travel
on Mexican highways after dark for safety reasons."
Taking cabs entails a high risk of robbery, beating, or rape:
"U.S. citizens visiting Mexico City should absolutely
avoid taking any taxi not summoned by telephone or on
their behalf by a responsible individual or contracted in
advance at the airport. Robbery assaults on passengers in
taxis have become more frequent and violent, with
passengers subjected to beatings and sexual assault. In
December 1997, a U.S. citizen was murdered in a taxi
robbery. When in need of a taxi, telephone a radio taxi
or "sitio" (pronounced "C-T-O"). Ask the dispatcher for
the driver's name and the cab's license plate number."
Thanks for the tip.
The neoMarxist left has been so successful in obtaining control of one 'democratic' country after another (ala Chavez or Schroeder) that it seems that there are few pro-American democracies left, maybe including our own democracy. (I wish I were joking about that.)
A friend of mine who used to work in Mexico says that the educated population there admires Castro for having 'stood up to' the USA, and that the hatred of Yanquis and 'Norte Americanos' is predominate.
And we want to merge our nations economic policies with these people? It is suicide on a national scale.
BTTT
Thanks. As usual, rod ran and hid. The dozen or so OBL types here at FR are a dispicable bunch. I feel like typing with fists from time to time, LOL! Blackbird.
Are you calling President Bush a traitor or are you calling another member of FreeRepublic a traitor?
ping
After spending several years starting oil exploration crews for Pemex and re-reading Atlas Shrugged, I think I have The reason Mexico has become so bad.
I like the Mexican people in the fly over parts of Mexico.
The mid level and workers of Pemex are good.
It is the government and the high up in Pemex that are the vultures and looters.
The peso was about 8 cents (12.5 to a dollar).
When Pemex found the sito grande, a very large oil pool that covers parts of the states of Chiapas and Tabasco also a long ways into the Gulf of Mexico.
Pemex borrowed billions to produce this great oil find.
The looters (government) stole most of the money and what they did buy was junk oil rigs and drill pipe, etc.
1,000 pesos which was worth about $80 now will not buy a coke.
This was due to the looters stealing billions from the Mexican people.
Instead of overthrowing the looters the Mexican people had an out, they had no weapons and they could cross into America and have a much safer life.
This hurts both Mexico and America as Mexico lost some of it's hardest workers.
The gangbangers also came over from Mexico as they could rape and pillage at will.
The government of Mexico is propped up by the billions sent back by the illegals and by our government having borders that are too open.
The only chance I see to help America and Mexico is to seal the border, deport the people who are not here legaly.
We also need to arm the Mexican people so they can have a chance against the looters with their armies.
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