Crewman Dies Aboard U.S. Submarine That Ran Aground

Reuters ^ | 1/9/05

[CTGOPPER]

<<As soon as I told hubby, an ex-bubblehead (fast attack subs)...

I'm amazed at how many bubblehead people are on this site. My husband served on submarines (boomers) back in the 70's. Interviewed with Admiral Rickover for the honor!

[steve86]

basically dead reckoning

The thing that puzzles me is how they deal with currents and keep accurate track of position. Obviously, this has been figured out sometime ago, but it is new to me. Just like an aircraft with a crosswind, you can't tell you're in a crosswind until you look down at the ground.

[Rebel-without-a-pause]

That's a common misconception. You don't ever glow in the dark. You get more radiation from a day at the beach than you get on a nuke sub. You wear a radiation badge that monitors the amount of radiation you get. It is very, very little.

[Rebel-without-a-pause]

Satellite navigation works the same way that GPS works in a hand held or car navigation system does. It also uses the same satellites. Foreign navies use it too. It doesn't require a fixed, visual reference point. Inertial navigation works very well if you correct it occasionally with a "Sat fix".

[spetznaz]

Because the wave reached Africa. Not because the sea floor shifted off Africa.

The earthquake literally shook the entire world, elevated certain regions and dropped others, had the power of millions of nuclear weapons, AND SLOWED DOWN THE ROTATION OF THE EARTH BY SOME FRACTIONS OF A SECOND! Anything that can muck with the rotation of the earth can definitely raise a sandbar in any ocean.

Im not saying the sub hit a sandbar, just that the earthquake of the 25th could do nigh anything it wanted.

[PAR35]

Lets just be patient and not condem the Captain yet There could be a lot of mitigating circumstances

That probably won't matter. The captain has likely had his last command.

[Dog Gone]

What's interesting about this thread is that it contains almost the identical speculation, assertions, and explanations as the previous thread that most of the participants here seem to have missed.

That suggests that the numbers here at FR have grown to the point where we have a redundant group mind effect and knowledge base capabilities.

[thoughtomator]

If you do the math on that one, you'll see that would result in a wall of water over 1200 ft. high... pretty darn unlikely.

[StarCMC]

Darn. God bless the family...prayers for the fallen and injured.

Sub ping

[Centurion2000]

bump

[bobbyd]

Good one

[spetznaz]

The earthquake was over 7000 miles from where the sub hit bottom. It is extremely unlikely that this caused because of the earthquake.

The earthquake literally shook the entire world, elevated certain regions and dropped others, HAD THE POWER OF MILLIONS OF a-BOMBS, AND SLOWED DOWN THE ROTATION OF THE EARTH BY SOME FRACTIONS OF A SECOND! Anything that can muck with the rotation of the earth can definitely raise a sandbar in any ocean.

Im not saying the sub hit a sandbar, just that the earthquake of the 25th could do nigh anything it wanted.

[Robe]

The earthquake literally shook the entire world, elevated certain regions and dropped others, had the power of millions of nuclear weapons, AND SLOWED DOWN THE ROTATION OF THE EARTH BY SOME FRACTIONS OF A SECOND! Anything that can muck with the rotation of the earth can definitely raise a sandbar in any ocean. Im not saying the sub hit a sandbar, just that the earthquake of the 25th could do nigh anything it wanted. *********************************************************

No it couldn't.......different tectonic plate

Any Geological movement would be noted, no matter where it occurred.
There could not have been a significant distortion in the area which would cause this accident.
That being said, there are what is known a volcanic sea mounts, in which lava will "leak" causing a dome or peak to rise from the ocean floor, these happen with very little seismic noise

You can rule out the earthquake 1700 miles to the west on a completely different tectonic plate

[Chemist_Geek]

Is that extremely low frequency radio program still in operation?

No. Navy pulls plug on Project ELF

[Boot Hill]

"A sandbar in the middle of the ocean?"

Nope, it appears that the USS San Francisco ran aground in the Caroline Islands, apparently while transiting from Guam to Brisbane, Australia. As usual, I have a map...

Map to the grounding area

--Boot Hill

[pierrem15]

Given the type and number of injuries, the boat must have travelling at a high rate of speed.

[hedgetrimmer]

Akron man dies in submarine accident

AKRON -- An Akron area man has died Sunday from the injuries he suffered when a navy nuclear submarine ran aground.



Machine Mate Specialist Joseph Ashley died as he was being flown by helicopter to a hospital.

Ashley was one of 20 sailors hurt in accident.

Ashley graduated from Manchester High School and just completed his fourth year as a sailor.

Funeral services for Ashley will be later this week in Canal Fulton with burial in West Virginia.

The USS San Francisco hit land about 350 miles south of Guam with 137 sailors aboard.

The crash is under investigation.

[topher]

People whose Careers are done.

Admiral and former CNO Chester Nimitz was court marshalled for running a destroyer aground. And this was on his first command after leaving the Naval Academy.

However, the Navy was very lenient on Nimitz -- this was just after he left the Naval Academy and just after World War I. The Admiral in Pearl Harbor let Nimitz take a destroyer for a cruise -- to give him a taste of the sea.

Nimitz hit an uncharted reef. There were very lenient on him because the circumstances. But Chester did pay attention to charting reefs in World War II -- especially for invasions.

[oldironsides]

We have GPS and a marvelous computerized screen telling us how deep the water is on our boat. We have the entire east coast and the Chesapeake. We would use another disc if we were to travel to other waters. It is all on charts. Could the earthquake have cause any changes? Something just does not sound right. This submarine had someone sleeping in the control room?

[festus]

The depth of the ocean at the point of the incident was not immediately known.

But it can be estimated: Shallow!

Not necessarily. Submarines can go "all the way to the bottom".