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Nuclear Submarine Runs Aground South of Guam
The Associated Press ^ | Jan 8, 2005 | The Associated Press

Posted on 01/08/2005 3:19:47 AM PST by Jet Jaguar

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To: Jet Jaguar

Sh*t, just reading this headline - whoa.


661 posted on 01/08/2005 8:50:57 PM PST by txhurl (Please no Abyss-type bioluminescense types surface.)
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To: GoldenOrchid

Wiki has it already,eh?

Someone didn't waste any time, did they


662 posted on 01/08/2005 8:51:55 PM PST by fastattacksailor (The US without the UN is like not having your mother-in-law with you on your honeymoon)
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To: Robert A. Cook, PE
The reactor systems are classified, and I won't go into technical details about they (and the other electronics onboard) are cooled.

Here is a public diagram:

It doesn't take much extrapolation to infer redundancy and emergency systems as required.

663 posted on 01/08/2005 8:52:13 PM PST by WildTurkey
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To: SmithL
and did you learn that little ditty at the Whinnie and Moo? I understand they have a new and improved model in Bremerton, but I have fond memories of the one in Vallejo.

First time I was in the Horse & Cow was on Ellis Street in Down Town SF in '68. Been to the one in Bremerton and saw lots of stuff I use to have in my hands at one time or another.

SS & SSN Sailor
664 posted on 01/08/2005 8:52:56 PM PST by SS Guy
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To: SmithL
I hated all of the East Coast maneuvering watches (except maybe Port Canaveral) but the absolute worst was pulling into Halifax harbor for a MediVac during a Winter Storm. 18 Hours on the Surface, each way. Ugh!

Try about that amount of time on the surface under gale conditions (impending typhoon) after 8 days in Hong Kong with most of the crew half hung over. Almost no one was able to go a watch without making at least two trips forward ...

665 posted on 01/08/2005 8:56:21 PM PST by WildTurkey
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To: Robert A. Cook, PE

The day I qualified DOOW, I could have shown you on the Equalibrium Polygon (SSM Vol 7) why it is physically not possible, especially since we shitcanned all the fat boys you would need in the middle '90's. 8^)


666 posted on 01/08/2005 8:56:55 PM PST by j_tull (There are only two types of ships... Submarines and targets.)
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To: SS Guy
Don't know about Boomers, (you do know where "boomer" came from don't you?... From Fleet Ballistic Missile, aka; FBM, pronounced "FaBoom", shortened to "Boomer"),

Boomer: Boomerang. Always returns to the same port.

667 posted on 01/08/2005 8:59:41 PM PST by WildTurkey
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To: WildTurkey
...after 8 days in Hong Kong with most of the crew half hung over. Almost no one was able to go a watch without making at least two trips forward ...

We left Fort Liquerdale, FL like that. Had to hold the bost and search out all hands before leaving. The cops were bring guys back all night. Finaly we were down to one TM2 missing. Located him and left ½ hour late heading for Panama.

Can't get drunk like that now in the Navy, you end up in a treatment program.

SS & SSN Sailor
668 posted on 01/08/2005 9:00:41 PM PST by SS Guy
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To: WildTurkey
Just saw the picture, you must be/been fast attack or old boomer. I was S8G, glad to have gotten in, even gladder to have gotten out.
669 posted on 01/08/2005 9:00:45 PM PST by In veno, veritas
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To: WildTurkey

Especially since some of that diagram shows stuff not required, and the stuff that is required is duplicated on the port side.


670 posted on 01/08/2005 9:00:52 PM PST by j_tull (There are only two types of ships... Submarines and targets.)
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To: Robert A. Cook, PE
Try 2-3 knots, perfectly trimmed boat, keeping only 8" of the periscope exposed in a calm sea - so

Why so fast. If it was perfectly calm, we were never going that fast.

671 posted on 01/08/2005 9:00:56 PM PST by WildTurkey
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To: IonImplantGuru
- Ex-nuke; never failed an ORSE board and thank my luck stars I didn't!

Didn't ever "pass" an ORSE.

Was M-Div for engineroom steaming and core fill, flush, hydro's, RCA on our pre-crit inspection, had three years in EB trying to build the d*mn thing. 5 years, 6 different shipyards and two subs - and less than 6 weeks at sea. Heck, I was destiend for repair duty even before I got to a sub school: had 4 months pre-com duty and launch crew on 698, and finished prototype early, and then got assigned "work order paperwork officer" even before I got out of S1W.

.... Does that count? 8<)

Five more years overhauling the buggers at Mare ISland - That's when I got familar fixing the 575 and finally decomming and towing the 575 and a little on the 571, fixing the 683 and 687, and fixing 688's and regular 637's.
Had probably 3 years total sitting on solid-solid charging pump pressure control while at EB, NNSY, and Norfolk NSY. Saw more ways of keeping a reactor solid than most others probably ever needed to, including 1-way and 2-way valve op water flask floats and conventional air bubbles in the pressurizer. Was in four years before we ever had our first "shutdown to hot standby", and kept a bubble in the pressurizer!

Its a bit difficult taking a coolant sample when you're solid-solid, what the ELT drains has to get immediately replaced by the charging pump. A 2 degree drop in the outside temperature cools the reactor compartment, and that cools the primary, and that reduces primary pressure several dozen psi!

672 posted on 01/08/2005 9:01:28 PM PST by Robert A Cook PE (I can only donate monthly, but Kerry's ABBCNNBCBS continue to lie every day!)
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To: j_tull
Especially since some of that diagram shows stuff not required, and the stuff that is required is duplicated on the port side.

What is not required?

673 posted on 01/08/2005 9:01:54 PM PST by WildTurkey
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To: WildTurkey

MCPs


674 posted on 01/08/2005 9:03:06 PM PST by j_tull (There are only two types of ships... Submarines and targets.)
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To: SS Guy

I got out in '97, and drinking to excess was still heartily endorsed.


675 posted on 01/08/2005 9:03:24 PM PST by Doohickey ("This is a hard and dirty war, but when it's over, nothing will ever be too difficult again.”)
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To: SS Guy
We left Fort Liquerdale, FL like that. Had to hold the bost and search out all hands before leaving. The cops were bring guys back all night. Finaly we were down to one TM2 missing. Located him and left ½ hour late heading for Panama.

We pulled into Pusan and had to leave that evening due to a typhoon. Left about 25% of the crew. We went to Okinawa but the "lost" crew went to Japan. They then headed to Okinawa but we had to pull out due to, you guessed it, a typhoon. We lost another 20% in Okinawa.

I often wondered why I returned to the boat on each of the evenings before we had to pull out.

OTOH, Just a few weeks before my discharge, I returned to the ship after a day in the Subic Bay and was awakened about 5 am the next morning and told that the ship was leaving due to, you guessed it, a typhoon and I had exactly one hour to get off the ship and report to the base. Two days later I was on a plane headed to California.

676 posted on 01/08/2005 9:07:39 PM PST by WildTurkey
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To: Robert A. Cook, PE

My heart goes out to you. Spent 2 years in the yards, hated every day of it. I'd rather remove my right fella with a cork screw than go back to the yards again. I even volunteered to go out to sea, no one understood why I was so happy to be underway.


677 posted on 01/08/2005 9:07:59 PM PST by In veno, veritas
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To: j_tull

We needed them.


678 posted on 01/08/2005 9:08:34 PM PST by WildTurkey
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To: WildTurkey

Yes, it's a diagram.

But that ain't what installed on the 688's (as far as reactor and auxilary and engineroom cooling systems go), and it doesn't show where the suction and discharge valves are, and it doesn't show HOW the things are really cooled that you were worried about, so it's irrelevent to the discussion.


680 posted on 01/08/2005 9:11:40 PM PST by Robert A Cook PE (I can only donate monthly, but Kerry's ABBCNNBCBS continue to lie every day!)
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