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CA: Perata wants more state control
Oakland Tribune ^
| 1/7/05
| Steve Geissinger
Posted on 01/07/2005 10:37:32 PM PST by NormsRevenge
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To: NormsRevenge
"We are radically changing the lifestyle in California based upon our inability to wrestle with the problems of sprawl, congestion and affordability."
Perata is unable to deal with sprawl and congestion? Mr. Perata, how can you have sprawl and congestion at the same time? Mr. Perata, in making our constitutional government unable to maintain our infrastructure, you should resign.
Constitutional government works, but the radical changes in lifestyle Mr. Perata is promoting for the state of California is nothing short of establishing a soviet housing system with little or no individual property ownership, no privacy, no backyards for kids to play in, and no automobiles.
Soviet Union, here we come!
To: NormsRevenge
Socialism - Perata style. Its apopros it should come from one of the most liberal areas in our state.
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posted on
01/07/2005 10:50:09 PM PST
by
goldstategop
(In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives On In My Heart Forever)
To: NormsRevenge
Centralizing powers to the state. Hmmmmmmmmmm. I think they tried it before...
Soviet Union.
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posted on
01/07/2005 10:50:54 PM PST
by
Simmy2.5
(Kerry will be inaugurated January 20th! I BELIEVE!!! [DUmmie taken away in a straight jacket])
To: Simmy2.5
Centralizing powers to the state
Check out the California Performance Review, if you need reassurance that we are headed toward a soviet system. The governor wants to eliminate elected representatives, create mega agencies with appointed heads all reporting directly to the governor, and wipe out our county system by undermining county boundaries with unelected regional councils to govern us.
Many people don't know that "soviet" is another word for council. Its no coincidence that those that want to promote a lifestyle in the image of the soviet union is using unelected councils to do it. In fact its the same trick the Russians used in the Ukraine in the 1930s to establish their control of that country.
To: hedgetrimmer
Peralta is just another Stalinoid apparatchik.
To: NormsRevenge
...the state seize some...power from cities and counties ..." and centralize planning authority.
And it would be a shining success, just like the BCS!
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posted on
01/07/2005 11:00:11 PM PST
by
Seaplaner
(Never give in. Never give in. Never...except to convictions of honour and good sense. W. Churchill)
To: goldstategop
Do you know of Sunne Wright McPeak? She heads the governor's office of Business, Transportation & Housing. All those functions under one person. Its no coincidence that a "smart growth" advocate like Sunne would be in charge of jobs, transporation and housing. Smart growth is another name for government controlling every aspect of a persons life, from where they work, to where they live and how they get to their job.
Guess who decides which businesses operate in a smart growth community? Guess who decides who is going live in the cost shifted housing and who is going to pay for the price bubble it causes in the so-called market priced housing? Guess who decides if you get to keep your car?
To: hedgetrimmer
BTW, what they are trying to do, with the high density 'Soviet' housing, check out this website! http://www.skyscrapercity.com/forumdisplay.php?f=439
Check out some of the threads containing Russian cities. They look like those old housing project ghettos areas in Chicago or New York...EXCEPT BIGGER! Is this what we want the future of California to be? Smart growth?
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posted on
01/07/2005 11:07:03 PM PST
by
Simmy2.5
(Kerry will be inaugurated January 20th! I BELIEVE!!! [DUmmie taken away in a straight jacket])
To: sheik yerbouty
Peralta is just another Stalinoid apparatchik
That being said, what are we going to do to preserve our liberty and the free market for housing and jobs and businesses? Peralta can do the citizens of California great harm in his position.
To: hedgetrimmer
Obviously he needs to be removed from office. Isn't he in some sort of legal hot water now?
To: Simmy2.5
Is this what we want the future of California to be? Smart growth?
Not me! But it is the future of our whole country, as smart growth is a policy adopted under the federal governments sustainable development policies-- which are nothing short of a transformation of our constitutional government to a soviet socialist system.
Right now Arnold is dangling money from the state to the counties if they put in smart growth projects. They are trying to put lipstick on a pig however, and are adding architectural amenities to their soviet bloc housing projects so people will think they look nice.
To: NormsRevenge
"I will guarantee you that if there was any effort to provide affordable housing, through higher density, there would be a (housing) rush like you wouldn't believe," he (Perata) said. What a guy!
He could invest his own money in high density affordable housing and become rich overnight, but instead he continues to plug away for all of California for a salary.
/sarcasm
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posted on
01/07/2005 11:13:56 PM PST
by
RJL
To: sheik yerbouty
Bribes or illegal money of some sort, I think.
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01/07/2005 11:15:36 PM PST
by
farmfriend
( Congratulation. You are everything we've come to expect from years of government training.)
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To: RJL
I'll propose a deal with Perata: the libs in the Bay Area can have state-controlled housing if we get a spending limit cap constitutional amendment. In other words, the libs get they want and we get what we want. Since he's a wheeler-dealer, it should save us a bloody fight in the State Legislature over spending reform.
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posted on
01/07/2005 11:18:46 PM PST
by
goldstategop
(In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives On In My Heart Forever)
To: RJL
"I will guarantee you that if there was any effort to provide affordable housing cost shifted is the correct term, through higher density, there would be a (housing) rush like you wouldn't believe," he (Perata) said.
Every one of the smart growth affordable homes require that someone else buying into the development pay more that than their home is worth to shift the cost from the so called low invome buyer to someone else "who can afford it". It is classic wealth redistribution, soviet style, from each according to his ability, to each according to his need.
The smart growth planners and politicians talk about housing needs all the time, and they mean to each according to his need when they say it.
To: NormsRevenge
The California legislature needs to start thinking about sustainability too.
The tsunami in Asia proves that the sea coast is not sustainable. California must completely stop all improvements within 10 miles of the coast and move or destroy all improvements within 10 miles of the coast within 10 years.
This same plan must also be implemented along all known fault lines as well.
This might seem a little drastic, but think of the lives we will eventually save. These off limit areas will return to a wild state for all the animals too.
It's a win win for everybody!
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posted on
01/07/2005 11:23:23 PM PST
by
RJL
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