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More Hollywood Snubs of Gibson's 'Passion'
NewsMax.com ^ | Jan 6, 2005

Posted on 01/06/2005 2:54:25 PM PST by gina girl

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To: Borges

If the Academy ignores the "Passion" then I'm ignoring them. For good.


81 posted on 01/06/2005 8:04:52 PM PST by Hillarys Gate Cult ("Don't get eliminated!")
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To: Hillarys Gate Cult
If the Academy ignores the "Passion" then I'm ignoring them. For good.

So you shun people who don't share your taste in movies? Isn't that sort of...silly? :-)
82 posted on 01/06/2005 8:08:16 PM PST by Borges
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To: Borges

Well, I just contend that it's the kind of "different" film that Hollywood usually goes ga-ga over. It's not gay cowboys eating pudding, but it should raise some artistic ears. The contenders this year are particularly lame.


83 posted on 01/06/2005 8:11:53 PM PST by AmishDude (Official pseudo-Amish mathematician of FreeRepublic.)
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To: Borges
No. I avoid them with extreme prejudice.
Let's just say it will be the final insult after the Academy's Michael Moore lovefest last year. If they want a showcase for awarding mostly leftist films, then they can do it without me.
84 posted on 01/06/2005 8:20:10 PM PST by Hillarys Gate Cult ("Don't get eliminated!" - MXC)
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To: Hillarys Gate Cult

Was Moore even there last year? He didn't have a film out. What lovefest are you talking about? As for mostly leftist films, look at Post #63 in this thread. The Oscar winning films tend to be conservative.


85 posted on 01/06/2005 8:22:50 PM PST by Borges
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To: gina girl
I have heard (cannot confirm) that Mel Gibson did not even submit The Passion of the Christ for inclusion in the Awards. I know nothing about the process involved.
86 posted on 01/06/2005 8:32:23 PM PST by Zack Nguyen
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To: kstewskis

P.S. Mad Max 4 please :) Make it more like The Road Warrior, not Beyond Thunderdome.

Man oh man, are we ever overdue for that! They should let me write the script treatment however, I'm just a-bubbling over with twenty years worth of ideas.

As I see it, in the first movie he was a young cop trying to protect a dying civilization. For the next two he was an aimlessly wandering warrior of the wilderness. This time around he should be a middle-aged cop struggling to protect a burgeoning civilization. Plenty of opportunity for messianic imagery and christian morals there.

87 posted on 01/06/2005 9:16:05 PM PST by sinanju
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To: sgtbono2002
"The Academy can shove their golden idol straight up their butts,------- sideways."

I LIKE it. I REALLY LIKE it.

88 posted on 01/06/2005 9:23:03 PM PST by Miss Behave (Beloved daughter of Miss Creant, super sister of danged Miss Ology, and proud mother of Miss Hap.)
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To: Borges

"And neither is its being ignored by awards political. 'The Last Temptation of Christ' wasn't nominated for a Best Picture Oscar either and no one claimed that was a sign of Hollywood's inherent conservatism."

Perhaps the lack of a nomination for the "Last temptation" had more to do with it being a piece of cinematic DRECK.

Now quit slurring Mel and believers or kindly leave this forum you Troll.

Al


89 posted on 01/06/2005 9:47:32 PM PST by Al Simmons (Proud BUSHBOT since 1994!!!)
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To: Borges

"The grosses for 2004 actually set a record high. In regards to 'The Last Temptation of Christ', Medved's speculation about why Scorsese made the film is completely wrong. Scorsese had worked on a script as early as the 70s. A time when projects that outre were much more common. Because of financing continually falling through he had to wait till 1987-1988 to get it made. Scorsese considered going into the Priesthood as a young man. That movie had nothing to do with any in-crowd. It was the personal work of a troubled believer. The reason it failed commercially is that non-believers avoid religious themed films altogether. And the believers certainly weren't going to go."

OK, Mister "6-24-2004" DU/TROLL, get this straight: Scorcese is an ANTI-CATHOLIC BIGOT, not a 'troubled believer'. Hence the conscious effort to smear The Saviour in the 'Last temptation'.

Now kindly shut up and try to learn something here for a year or two before you start posting - or crawl outta here - please.

Al


90 posted on 01/06/2005 9:54:02 PM PST by Al Simmons (Proud BUSHBOT since 1994!!!)
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To: Borges

" So you shun people who don't share your taste in movies? Isn't that sort of...silly? :-)"

Spam, SPam, Spam, Spam, SPam, Spam, Lovely Spam.


91 posted on 01/06/2005 9:55:11 PM PST by Al Simmons (Proud BUSHBOT since 1994!!!)
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To: Borges

"People have compared the Gibson film to something like 'Schindler's List' but seem to be forgetting that the latter really wasn't very violent.."

OK. All together now:

WHHAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAATTTT?


92 posted on 01/06/2005 9:56:37 PM PST by Al Simmons (Proud BUSHBOT since 1994!!!)
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To: gina girl
Instead, Variety gave acting kudos to Gael Garcia Bernal for his role as Che Guevara in "The Motorcycle Diaries," Kevin Bacon for his role as a pedophile in "The Woodsman," and Liev Schrieber for his role as a psychotic conservative politician in "The Manchurian Candidate."

The Hollywood Foreign Press Association, the organization behind the Golden Globes, instead gave nominations to "Vera Drake" (about a kindly abortionist), "Kinsey" (about the discredited sex researcher), and "The Sea Inside" (about a paraplegic's campaign to be euthanized).

Wow... they don't even pretend anymore, do they. They might as well stand on top of the Hollywood sign and scream, "IT'S ABOUT POLITICS!! NOTHING BUT POLITICS!!"

I guess the quickest, surest way to get a nomination is to play a lesbian who gets raped and is paralyzed by a botched abortion which sends her on a quest to "die with dignity."

93 posted on 01/06/2005 9:59:04 PM PST by wizardoz (Yes, I liked Kill Bill)
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To: Borges
It's been brought up here by someone that if Gibson were to take his proposal for his film to the Vatican it would have been rejected since his view does not match the one currently held by the Catholic church.

That Our Lord suffered horribly and Atoned for us, and Rose from the dead? Gibson based his work on two Catholic mystics. If you think the Vatican opposes that, then either you're getting some very foolish information, or I don't know what else. The difference he and I and many have with the Vatican goes to matters of Catholic dogma. It's very simple. The churchmen, today, seem embarrassed and offended by Catholic teaching, papal encyclicals, conciliar decrees, and the writings of the Saints. Catholics are not, and are not offended by Catholic orthodoxy. That's a source of disagreement, and cause for quite a roaring good conversation at one's next charity fundraiser.

94 posted on 01/07/2005 12:18:31 AM PST by sevry
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To: Borges
So you shun people who don't share your taste in movies?

I think we should blacklist the BLACKLISTERS, in short. They want to shun Our Lord? They want to make The Passion, even just as a film, go away? Then we shun them. Two can play at that. And the stakes are high.

No doubt, you'll be here, front and center, on Oscar night, drooling over the second-rate fare nominated for various awards, eyeing the celebs on the runway for this dress or that. The whole of the LM wants you to do just that, just as they wanted you to vote sKerry. I refused then. I'll refuse in a few months, too. But . . hey.

95 posted on 01/07/2005 12:23:00 AM PST by sevry
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To: Borges

"Do you really think boycotts against people because they don't share your taste in movies is something worthwhile?"

No, I think an organization, who broadcasts to millions of people over the public airwaves should not omit a movie because it is not to their political liking.

In addition, by taking this position and then trying to pass off degenerate garbage to us as art is an insult.

By boycotting the broadcasting company and the Academy, we send a message that we will no longer tolerate being insulted by the "minority" left wing of this country.

Movies are about art. The Passion, from my perspective is one of the top three movies of the year. It may not win, but should be recognized.



96 posted on 01/07/2005 3:33:56 AM PST by EQAndyBuzz (60 votes and the world changes.)
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To: Borges; AmishDude
I believe in the Foriegn Language film category the country has to submit the film for it to be considered. They instituted that rule during the Cold War to avoid socio-political flaps like the Boris Pasternak Nobel prize thing. Since The Passion is an American production I don't believe it will be submitted for Foriegn Language Film Oscar.

You are correct. Gibson's film cannot be submitted as a foreign film.

97 posted on 01/07/2005 6:02:33 AM PST by Drew68
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To: Borges

What kind of scum are you to defend Hollywood?


98 posted on 01/07/2005 6:12:23 AM PST by ohioman
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To: Al Simmons

Please point where I slurred anyone. Before you slurred me that is.


99 posted on 01/07/2005 7:33:43 AM PST by Borges
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To: ohioman

When you're through with the name calling I can explain that I, among others here, am a life long movie lover.


100 posted on 01/07/2005 7:35:24 AM PST by Borges
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