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Arizona's border reports most illegal alien apprehensions (for 2004)
Arizona Daily Sun ^

Posted on 01/03/2005 9:23:01 PM PST by Happy2BMe

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Didn't Arizona just have some type of a 'proposition' recently?
1 posted on 01/03/2005 9:23:01 PM PST by Happy2BMe
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To: JohnHuang2; keri; international american; Kay Soze; jpsb; hershey; TomInNJ; dagnabbit; Pro-Bush; ...
Good story on Arizona's efforts to rise up against the illegal migrant invasion and be counted - ping.

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(Referred by FBD - tnx.)

2 posted on 01/03/2005 9:24:51 PM PST by Happy2BMe ("Islam fears democracy worse than anything-It castrates their stranglehold at the lowest level.")
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Arizona border apprehensions higher than other states combined

3 posted on 01/03/2005 9:26:12 PM PST by Happy2BMe ("Islam fears democracy worse than anything-It castrates their stranglehold at the lowest level.")
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To: Happy2BMe

BTTT


4 posted on 01/03/2005 9:28:05 PM PST by Cold Heart
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ping


5 posted on 01/03/2005 9:35:07 PM PST by gubamyster
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To: Happy2BMe
From the U.S. Customs and Border Protection website website.

"The Tucson Air Branch maintains an inventory of 13 aircraft - five Citation interceptor jets, four Black Hawk helicopters, and four light observation planes.

"All of these high-speed aircraft can travel substantial distances without refueling, enabling them to cover hundreds of square miles in a single flight, an important advantage when the target area includes vast stretches of international border. In addition, the Black Hawk helicopters can land in rugged terrain and transport up to 10 passengers, making them invaluable for rescue and evacuation operations in remote and inaccessible areas.

"To fly these aircraft, ICE relies on more than 60 pilots who are also trained as enforcement agents. "

But still the Bush-bashers will claim that he is doing nothing to curb illegal immigration and that we have "open borders."

6 posted on 01/03/2005 9:40:09 PM PST by bayourod (The states and cities with large immigrant labor pools are the prosperous ones.)
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To: bayourod
I'd like to see something more come from Bush on immigration reform than an amnesty program. Something very concrete and doable. Something we can all identify with and agree on.

Wouldn't you?

7 posted on 01/03/2005 9:44:33 PM PST by Happy2BMe ("Islam fears democracy worse than anything-It castrates their stranglehold at the lowest level.")
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To: Happy2BMe

He doesn't have an amnesty program. He has a guest worker program.


8 posted on 01/03/2005 9:49:31 PM PST by bayourod (The states and cities with large immigrant labor pools are the prosperous ones.)
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To: bayourod
In the words of Ronald Reagan, "There you go again."

Stop the flood
Michael Reagan

It was the elephant in the living room and during the election nobody wanted to admit it was there, even though it represents one of the most serious threats to the future of America as we know it.
During the campaigns both parties shied away from even mentioning illegal immigration, despite the fact that it was uppermost in the minds of millions of Americans now paying the price for our government's failure to get a grip on the scandal.
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Over the next four years, the president is going to have to get this disaster under control or those Republicans who voted for him in droves while holding their nose on the illegal immigration issue will not hold their noses two and four years from now.

9 posted on 01/03/2005 10:04:58 PM PST by exhaustedmomma (Tancredo said Bush's guest-worker proposal is "a pig with lipstick")
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To: bayourod

The only manned aircraft routinely assigned to operate in Cochise County (an area the size of Connecdticutt) is a single French-made Allouette helicopter. Once in a while it gets swapped out for a Cayuse.

The only time we see the Blackhawks is when they are ferrying various high-ranking undesirables on a junket. The Citations are essentially the same as Lear jets and not at all suited to ground surveillance missions; however, they are well suited for whisking fat-assed bureaucrats from one place to another in cushioned comfort.

Their use of UAVs has been a subject of endless humor here locally. DHS seems to be afraid of using them near the border itself where they might be useful.


10 posted on 01/03/2005 10:21:07 PM PST by JackelopeBreeder (Proud to be a mean-spirited & divisive loco gringo armed terrorist vigilante cucaracha!)
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To: Happy2BMe

BTTT


11 posted on 01/03/2005 10:22:06 PM PST by international american ((Pray for the millions of lives disrupted by tsunami.))
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It is nice to see this type activity in AZ, no matter how futile it may seem.
12 posted on 01/03/2005 10:40:02 PM PST by Pro-Bush (Me he perdido)
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Five Cessna Citation Interceptor at $6 million each= $30 million that is not used for investigation, apprehension, or transportation of any illegal immigrant below Saddam's class.

These are used for drug interdiction and shuffling executive management.

four Black Hawk helicopters $$6 million each =24 million

four light observation planes at probably $125k= $5 million

Fifty nine million bucks for aircraft.

Two man crews, 13 aircraft, 60 pilots = 2.3 pilots per shows these planes aren't working 24 hours a day.

I wonder how many agents that would fund. Any idea? Probably enough to bring the invasion to a screeching HALT!


13 posted on 01/03/2005 10:47:23 PM PST by B4Ranch (((The lack of alcohol in my coffee forces me to see reality!)))
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To: exhaustedmomma
" the fact that it was uppermost in the minds of millions of Americans "

How many millions? Polls have consistently shown that only about one percent (3 million) of the population consider immigration to be their number one concern. And that is from open-ended surveys, not multiple choice. Here is the link to the latest Gallop Poll if you care to register for a free trial.

14 posted on 01/03/2005 10:49:36 PM PST by bayourod (The states and cities with large immigrant labor pools are the prosperous ones.)
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To: Happy2BMe

But wait, our president's proposal isn't amnesty, is it? How can this uptick in illegal crossings be true?


15 posted on 01/03/2005 10:53:48 PM PST by risk
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To: JackelopeBreeder
Their use of UAVs has been a subject of endless humor here locally. DHS seems to be afraid of using them near the border itself where they might be useful.

BTTT

16 posted on 01/03/2005 10:55:08 PM PST by janetgreen
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To: B4Ranch
The Canadian border has an average of one border agent for every five miles. The Tuscan sector has an average of eight agents per mile.

But the Bush-haters will never admit that he is doing anything to guard the southern border.

17 posted on 01/03/2005 10:55:19 PM PST by bayourod (The states and cities with large immigrant labor pools are the prosperous ones.)
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To: Happy2BMe

I just had one of life's little unexpected brain farts. Let me bounce a "what if" off you...

What if, instead of vectoring in the closest Border Patrol units, I was just to openly walk up to the endless groups of illegal aliens and start handing out business cards?

"Hey amigo, when you get where you're going, how about calling this toll free number and letting me know that you're okay? If you get tagged and end up in Naco or Agua Prieta, give me a call and let me know what's up? Oh, here, have a beer and give this Tootsie Pop to the ankle biter."

God knows there is one thing our masters are allergic to and that's any attempt to quantify the number of "got-aways". Even money says I'd be part of the highway roadkill statistics in under a month.


18 posted on 01/03/2005 10:56:31 PM PST by JackelopeBreeder (Proud to be a mean-spirited & divisive loco gringo armed terrorist vigilante cucaracha!)
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To: Happy2BMe

"Arizona border apprehensions higher than other states combined."

Bayourod is deeply saddened.


19 posted on 01/03/2005 10:59:46 PM PST by politicalwit (Import poverty...hire an illegal today)
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To: JackelopeBreeder
What type of government do you have in Cochise County? You know that local law officers can enforce federal laws don't you? The CBP has programs to train local law enforcement officials.

If illegal immigrants are really a concern to voters other than you why don't y'all do something about it instead of whining about President Bush.

Maybe you could borrow one of our Texas Rangers to clear up your problems.

20 posted on 01/03/2005 11:03:38 PM PST by bayourod (The states and cities with large immigrant labor pools are the prosperous ones.)
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