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Was Angleton Right?
WALL STREET JOURNAL ^ | December 30, 2004 | Edward Jay Epstein

Posted on 01/03/2005 1:15:44 PM PST by TapTheSource

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1 posted on 01/03/2005 1:15:45 PM PST by TapTheSource
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To: dennisw; Cachelot; Yehuda; Nix 2; veronica; Catspaw; knighthawk; Alouette; Optimist; weikel; ...

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2 posted on 01/03/2005 1:17:16 PM PST by TapTheSource
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To: TapTheSource

Also see:

http://edjayepstein.blogspot.com/


3 posted on 01/03/2005 1:18:43 PM PST by TapTheSource
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To: TapTheSource

"Mr. Cherkashin, who received the Order of Lenin for his work against the CIA, now runs a security company in Moscow"

ROTFLMAO


4 posted on 01/03/2005 1:23:20 PM PST by international american ((Pray for the millions of lives disrupted by tsunami.))
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To: TapTheSource

But, as I understand it, both Ames and Hansen were pretty obvious moles who could have been uncovered rather easily. Angleton's suspicions were directed against loyal operatives against whom there was no evidence.


5 posted on 01/03/2005 1:26:04 PM PST by proxy_user
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To: TapTheSource

No surprise here, The CIA is nothing but a bunch of WORTHLESS toads.


6 posted on 01/03/2005 1:30:56 PM PST by zzen01
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To: proxy_user
...until the Soviet Union disintegrated in 1991....

An operation is measured by its success, not the memoirs of the losing side (or winning side either.)

7 posted on 01/03/2005 1:32:32 PM PST by Doctor Stochastic (Vegetabilisch = chaotisch is der Charakter der Modernen. - Friedrich Schlegel)
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To: TapTheSource
Please tell me again why Ames and Hansen are sucking our precious air, and have not been strapped to the exhaust nozzles of an F-16?
8 posted on 01/03/2005 1:36:19 PM PST by Sthitch
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Touche. The proof is in the pudding. The CIA may have problems, but the KGB and the nation it stood for no longer exist!


9 posted on 01/03/2005 1:38:22 PM PST by VRWCisme
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"The CIA may have problems, but the KGB and the nation it stood for no longer exist!"

Ahhhhh! But there is, still, a huge, untouched, 60-year-old cesspool of fellow-travelers on C Street in DC happily undermining everything the U.S. stands for.

10 posted on 01/03/2005 1:52:18 PM PST by SuperLuminal
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To: Sthitch

They both were part of the worthless Washington DC "inner cicle".


11 posted on 01/03/2005 1:54:56 PM PST by zzen01
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To: TapTheSource
Wow. This commie spy's book sounds like some real propaganda.

Here's some excerpts from a Newsweek interview:

Cherkashin: ...at the end of the day, an American is a person. The only way to stop there being any more Ameses or Hanssens is to stop relying on people. Imagine you hire someone as an officer who just graduated from a good university and does well in his intelligence training. He gets married, has a child. Everything is fine, then one day he falls for some girl. That's it. He's got a conflict. He's not so loyal to work anymore. Maybe he needs money now to buy her a present, and so on.

Q: What makes someone a good candidate for switching sides?

Cherkashin: A person doesn't become a spy just because someone offers him $100,000 to do something. A person must be in the right frame of mind. It helps if a person has convictions, if he feels like his government is doing evil, if he feels his religious principles are being violated. Look at today's Islamic extremists. Why are they so effective? Because they believe.

Q: Do you see a Russian leader today who can take the country in that direction?

Cherkashin: No. Russia needs Stalin. We need a tough person. There's no one like that right now.

Q: As U.S. intelligence agencies are restructured, do you have any advice for your old adversaries?

Cherkashin: America is now at the center of a unipolar world. The danger in this is that the American government will start to believe it can ignore the interests of the rest of the world. That would be a disaster. If the American intelligence agencies start dictating their terms to everyone else, you will get the opposite reaction. Look at what happened in Iraq...


12 posted on 01/03/2005 1:59:26 PM PST by Tailgunner Joe (Our Constitution was made only for a moral and religious people.)
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The Last Word: Viktor Cherkashin
13 posted on 01/03/2005 2:00:26 PM PST by Tailgunner Joe (Our Constitution was made only for a moral and religious people.)
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To: TapTheSource

Another Angleton / Golitsyn bash fest. I wonder what the combined budgets are for the SVR, ErBu, ISI and the like, for operations to discredit these two?


14 posted on 01/03/2005 2:11:04 PM PST by GOP_1900AD (Stomping on "PC," destroying the Left, and smoking out faux "conservatives" - Take Back The GOP!)
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To: VRWCisme

>Touche. The proof is in the pudding. The CIA may have problems, but the KGB and the nation it stood for no longer exist!<

A fleeting thought....Our problem with the CIA may be it's infiltration by the KGB. And another....the bear is coming out of hybernation.


15 posted on 01/03/2005 2:12:43 PM PST by Paperdoll
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To: VRWCisme

Actually, most of the infrastructure and personnel of the KGB were miraculously retained by the emergent SVR and FSB. Only the name changed but much remained the same. Of course, the opportunity for a good purge was taken. Those ejected mostly ended up in the Russian Mafiya. I will take that at face value for now, but do not discount the possibility that the purge was also, itself, and operation to create a "Mafiya" with plausible deniability.


16 posted on 01/03/2005 2:14:20 PM PST by GOP_1900AD (Stomping on "PC," destroying the Left, and smoking out faux "conservatives" - Take Back The GOP!)
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To: Tailgunner Joe
IIRC most traitors in the U.S. "intelligence community" were motivated strictly by money (or sex).
17 posted on 01/03/2005 2:14:22 PM PST by BenLurkin (Big government is still a big problem.)
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But, as I understand it, both Ames and Hansen were pretty obvious moles who could have been uncovered rather easily.

You are correct. Staggeringly, gross incompetence allowed them to operate for as long as they did.

18 posted on 01/03/2005 2:23:13 PM PST by AmericaUnited
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Both Ames and Hansen were evil but a recent book on Hansen reveals him to be one of the most morally repugnant humanoids ever. The Rosenbergs were executed. Why are these two steal stealing our oxygen?


19 posted on 01/03/2005 3:27:15 PM PST by Shisan ("The law is the true embodiment of everything that's excellent...")
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To: TapTheSource; Calpernia; Velveeta; Revel; Alabama MOM; DAVEY CROCKETT; liberallyconservative

Interesting, thanks for posting this one.


20 posted on 01/03/2005 4:30:39 PM PST by nw_arizona_granny (Today, please pray for God's miracle, we are not going to make it without him.)
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