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Ten Objections to Christianity and How to Respond
Christianity Today ^ | 1/03/04 | Frank Harber

Posted on 01/02/2005 9:06:26 PM PST by freedom44

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To: jwpjr
When the ruler returned he punished severely the ones who knew of his instructions and failed to comply with them. But, Christ said, those who were ignorant of the ruler's commands were punished with "few stripes".

Hardly a convincing argument; even one stripe is a clear injustice.

201 posted on 01/03/2005 7:50:48 AM PST by steve-b (A desire not to butt into other people's business is eighty percent of all human wisdom)
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To: jwpjr

Yet it is God who puts souls into babies that He knows will grow up to be Buddhists,Hindus, or whatever. If these other religions were unacceptable to Him, then why do that?


202 posted on 01/03/2005 7:56:28 AM PST by A Ruckus of Dogs
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To: rcrngroup
Those who accept Christ will go to heaven... those who reject Christ and the revelation offered to them are on their way to the "other" place

C'mon, you can't expect someone who was told all their life that Buddhism is true and other religions are false to be converted that easily. After all, God did arrange it for them to be born Buddhist.

203 posted on 01/03/2005 7:59:19 AM PST by A Ruckus of Dogs
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To: A Ruckus of Dogs

Freewill, we are allowed to choose our own path even if it is the wrong one.


204 posted on 01/03/2005 8:00:10 AM PST by weshess (I will stop hunting when the animals agree to quit jumping in front of my gun to commit suicide)
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To: Melas

Why should we should we have to offer proof? It only gets us mired in the mud with you. Why don,t you show us that Jesus did not exist? Where is your proof?


205 posted on 01/03/2005 8:04:45 AM PST by weshess (I will stop hunting when the animals agree to quit jumping in front of my gun to commit suicide)
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To: Red Sea Swimmer

Acceptable . . .

interesting word in this context.

I suppose . . . in the sense that it is acceptable that you drink a cup of hydrochloric acid.

I can get over it and go on living. I can accept it in that sense.

But it's not at all important--in most respects--whether I accept it or not.

THE FATHER said--THIS IS MY SON, IN WHOM I AM WELL PLEASED.

THE FATHER will have something to say at some point about one's acceptance or rejection of HIS 'only begotten' SON whom HE SENT to die for you--and whome HE RAISED again to prove it.


206 posted on 01/03/2005 8:05:55 AM PST by Quix (HAVING A FORM of GODLINESS but DENYING IT'S POWER. I TIM 3:5)
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To: Red Sea Swimmer

So what is your quibble with Isaiah 53?


207 posted on 01/03/2005 8:07:11 AM PST by Quix (HAVING A FORM of GODLINESS but DENYING IT'S POWER. I TIM 3:5)
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To: Red Sea Swimmer

Being ONE WITH THE FATHER doesn't make Him an intermediary.

Besides, IF THE FATHER DECLARES this is the way THE FATHER set it up, then one's quarrel would be with THE FATHER.


208 posted on 01/03/2005 8:08:25 AM PST by Quix (HAVING A FORM of GODLINESS but DENYING IT'S POWER. I TIM 3:5)
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To: Red Sea Swimmer

DITTO.


209 posted on 01/03/2005 8:09:24 AM PST by Quix (HAVING A FORM of GODLINESS but DENYING IT'S POWER. I TIM 3:5)
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To: SedVictaCatoni

Methinks your research on the issue is very inadequate and lopsided.


210 posted on 01/03/2005 8:13:29 AM PST by Quix (HAVING A FORM of GODLINESS but DENYING IT'S POWER. I TIM 3:5)
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To: Red Sea Swimmer

Other than the adequate historical and Biblical proofs . . . many of us Christians have had demonstrable, miraculous proofs of God/Christ/Spirit actively being involved in our lives in redemptive ways.

BTW, what do you make of:

"In the beginning, God said, let US make man in OUR image?

It's that way in the original, too.


211 posted on 01/03/2005 8:15:36 AM PST by Quix (HAVING A FORM of GODLINESS but DENYING IT'S POWER. I TIM 3:5)
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To: freedom44
Regardless of the kind of difficulty found, not a single irreconcilable error can be found in the Bible's pages.

That's not really true. There are many inconsistencies in the Bible - the usual explanation is something like what was written later corrects an earlier mistake. Or require convuluted explanations that defy logic. Or if there is conflict with science, the conflict is ignored or science is wrong. And the old standby is that the Bible is right because the Bible says so.

Don't get me wrong, I worship God and take great comfort in the Bible. I believe that parts are divinely inspired but not always accurate. Man is incapable of fully comprehending the Divine.

212 posted on 01/03/2005 8:15:41 AM PST by PFC
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To: Red Sea Swimmer

Interesting how you can be right on the first part and so absolutely wrong on the last part.


213 posted on 01/03/2005 8:17:21 AM PST by Quix (HAVING A FORM of GODLINESS but DENYING IT'S POWER. I TIM 3:5)
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To: Red Sea Swimmer

"I'm religious. I'm also very content with myself and my place in the universe. I have a mission to fulfill and I am doing it. I don't believe in the divinity of the carpenter from Nazareth. Is that acceptable to you ?"


There are many mansions in My Father's Kingdom.
Logically, there are also many doorways.

God Bless


214 posted on 01/03/2005 8:19:52 AM PST by Grendel9
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To: weshess

There is the little issue of the Jewish RELIGIOUS leaders of the day saying:

LET HIS BLOOD BE UPON US AND UPON OUR DESCENDENTS.

It has long been fascinating how their descendents are not so willing to bear that . . . uhhh . . . cross.


215 posted on 01/03/2005 8:22:58 AM PST by Quix (HAVING A FORM of GODLINESS but DENYING IT'S POWER. I TIM 3:5)
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To: weshess

The more profound truth is that the sins of each of us across time nailed Him to that cross.

And, HIS LOVE, THE FATHER'S LOVE nailed Him to that cross.


216 posted on 01/03/2005 8:23:50 AM PST by Quix (HAVING A FORM of GODLINESS but DENYING IT'S POWER. I TIM 3:5)
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To: Red Sea Swimmer

Really sounds like you are all cocked, primed and ready to believe in the Biblically predicted false messiah.

Tragic, that.

Very tragic.


217 posted on 01/03/2005 8:29:02 AM PST by Quix (HAVING A FORM of GODLINESS but DENYING IT'S POWER. I TIM 3:5)
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To: Quix

I am still waiting on Dead Sea Swimmer to answer my question about what prophecy from the Old Testament that Jesus Did not fulfill.

As the saying goes it was not the nails that held him to the cross, it was his love for us.


218 posted on 01/03/2005 8:31:09 AM PST by weshess (I will stop hunting when the animals agree to quit jumping in front of my gun to commit suicide)
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To: Canticle_of_Deborah

Was a bit reluctant to believe that but the evidence seems conclusive at this point.

Which would explain why he's all primed and ready to accept the false messiah

the Anti-Christ.

He won't be alone. Most of Israel will believe the AC until he sets up his image in the Holy of Holies of the rebuilt temple. Then the AC will turn and begin to slaughter them by the 100's of thousands and millions.

Scripture is rather clear about that.


219 posted on 01/03/2005 8:32:38 AM PST by Quix (HAVING A FORM of GODLINESS but DENYING IT'S POWER. I TIM 3:5)
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To: Red Sea Swimmer

But have you studied Genesis so much that you are aware that the frequencies and patterns of the letters in Genesis are

awesomely special compared to any other Hebrew text?

This--just on a raw statistical, simple statistical basis.

It would be absolutely mystifying . . . except for another discovery.


220 posted on 01/03/2005 8:35:22 AM PST by Quix (HAVING A FORM of GODLINESS but DENYING IT'S POWER. I TIM 3:5)
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