In the beginning . . . Adam walked with dinosaurs [Creationist Park]

Telegraph.co.uk ^ | 02 January 2005 | James Langton

[shubi]

I have a great deal of knowledge in Hebrew. If you mean I have not practiced writing, I don't need to do that. The Bible is already written.

You know, you are coming very close to attacking the person instead of the argument. I don't remember what Hebrew scholarship you have shown, but if you would like to demonstrate some biology or biology in Hebrew that would be fine.

[shubi]

"If so, glad to see you're coming around ... ain't grace wonderful?"

I am simply trying to get you to talk about the subject of this thread-biology. The Bible does not speak to biology. That is the whole problem with creationism. They try to demonstrate some link from misinterpretation of the Bible to argue against science.

[shubi]

"I've got a friend who is a Born Again "

I had a friend that was a creationist, but the men in white coats swooped down and "raptured" him.

[tx_eggman]

ONLY one of their ways can possibly BE the "One true way".

Pick your destination. According to Jesus' own mouth there is only one way to the being He calls Father. That is the God I choose to believe in. The consequence of my choice is that I will receive, at the end of my "mortal" life, only what He may have the power and authority to provide.

Other choices have other destinations.

I'm supposed to believe the rest of these good, holy men are going to burn in hell for all eternity?

I don't know about the "burning in hell for all eternity" part but, unless Jesus was a liar - they won't be in the presence of, and in eternal relationship with, the God that Jesus called Father. Jesus said the he is the only way to that particular destination.

Granted, this claim angers people. That's why it's referred to as the Scandal of the Particular

[shubi]

All absolutely factual.

But cross posting is frowned on and impolite. Not that I care too much, except it is a bit like some sort of perverted stalking.

It is also coming close to ad hominem, basically calling me a liar. I resent it and it gives little credibility to your asserting Christianity.

You and Dataman are starting to give me the creeps. I may have to put you on shun, too.

[shubi]

Ed, are you saying you are double minded?

[D Edmund Joaquin]

You are Shubi. Is the Ark real or not, you can't have it both ways

[safisoft]

Shubi said, You know, you are coming very close to attacking the person instead of the argument.

Still having trouble with your own rules, eh?

Shubi said on this thread: Ad Hominem and ridicule are not Christian. I hope you will come up with some substantive discussion of the issues and refrain from childish taunting.

Shubi said on this thread: Ken Ham gives his minions rhetorical tricks to use in fighting the good fight against science. St. Ken, as we call him, is one of the finest examples of profiting from ignorance short of Hovind and Jesse Jackson.

Shubi said on this thread: But, I am sure he will be able to tell you a theory that isn't one that Ken Ham or Behe has fabricated.

Shubi said on this thread: So, Ham puts them together falsely to confuse the poor shlups who are going to give him money to see this travesty. Ham has made millions from Christian ignorance.

Shubi said on this thread: Ham and his minions try to scare people into believing a stupid interpretation of Scripture. This is what they do to Christians.

Shubi said on this thread: Yes, he is a multimillionaire now. Mrs. Ham's little boy is quite comfortable now. LOL

I have a great deal of knowledge in Hebrew.

That dog won't hunt. You have not indicated anything yet on this thread except an ability to pick up a Strong's.

[shubi]

What do you think the Ark was?

[safisoft]

It is also coming close to ad hominem, basically calling me a liar. I resent it and it gives little credibility to your asserting Christianity. You and Dataman are starting to give me the creeps. I may have to put you on shun, too.

There you go again. Live by your own rules, son. Your double-standard is breathtaking.

[D Edmund Joaquin]

I know what it is. I'm asking you, the Christian

[safisoft]

I have given evidence of how I think Genesis should be interpreted. You disagree. But my interpretation is just as "bible-based" as yours-probably more.

No, previously on this thread you stated that your interpretation was the only correct one. You made yourself the standard and gave no leeway for dissent. Hmm, sounds rather papal to me. Maybe we are on to something. Who are you REALLY?

[shubi]

I was attacking the character of Ken Ham, not attacking your arguments by calling you a name or demeaning your character.

Since I have no evidence of any character in you, I can't comment.

[safisoft]

arguments by calling you a name or demeaning your character.

You should reread this thread. You have belittled anyone who thinks differently from you. You have indeed called people names. Maybe in fun, maybe not - regardless, you can dish it out, but run crying "ad hominem" the moment anyone denies you are the super expert you think you are.

[shubi]

I haven't called you a liar, yet.

You seem to be supporting calling me one.

I would suggest to you that I am not the subject of this debate. The subject is biology and the laughable claim that Adam ran with dinosaurs.

Do you have any evidence that Adam really existed and that he ran with dinosaurs. We know that dinos existed, since we found their fossils.

[tx_eggman]

I can't comment.

That would be a refreshing change

[D Edmund Joaquin]

evo reindeer games. They've assigned shubi the task of getting the thread closed down or sent to the SBR

[shubi]

I told you what I think it is. You must tell me what you think it is, otherwise we can't continue.

[shubi]

I don't think you are correct. I think you hear the truth about science and misinterpretations of the Bible by creationists and confuse that with a personal attack.

[safisoft]

I was attacking the character of Ken Ham, not attacking your arguments by calling you a name or demeaning your character

So, you claim that speaking ill of people is "unchristian" when addressed directly? Speaking ill of them when they are not a part of the discussion is good? You should spend more time reading the Sages. You will see that Lashona Hara [speaking ill of others], is considered to be the very depths of unrighteousness.