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Was God in This Disaster?
Belief Net ^ | Rodger Kamenetz

Posted on 12/30/2004 12:07:56 PM PST by Lorianne

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To: My2Cents

THANKYOU,
Their will allways be death because of the admamic fall.
The only way to life everlasting is through JESUS CHRIST.
True christianity teaches us this is only a way station on this side of glory.
my belief structure is that GOD is totally soveriegn in all things.
GODSPEED!


41 posted on 12/30/2004 1:17:55 PM PST by alpha-8-25-02 (SAVED BY GRACE AND GRACE ALONE)
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To: ex-Texan

I'm slow today, I guess. I have no idea how your post is relevant to my post. Please explain.


42 posted on 12/30/2004 1:26:56 PM PST by GraniteStateConservative (...He had committed no crime against America so I did not bring him here...-- Worst.President.Ever.)
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To: APFel

Personally, i dunno and do not even have an inkling. Clueless i remain. But if day-to-day control over that facility has been transferred to a private corporation perhaps the FBI, NSA or whoever ought to determine what is going on up in Alaska. What if the corporation is controlled by a foreign company or a U.S. corporation held as a subsidiary of another foreign corporation. i dunno, really.


43 posted on 12/30/2004 1:27:09 PM PST by ex-Texan (Si triste trop mauvais. Revoyez-vous !)
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To: CyberAnt
GOD doesn't drown people.

He did with Noah's flood.

44 posted on 12/30/2004 1:27:13 PM PST by aimhigh
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To: alpha-8-25-02
Every circumstance of life, from those which bring happiness, to those which involve gut-wrenching grief, are opportunities to see God in the details. When faced with adversity, we have two options: either "curse God and die" (per Mrs. Job's advice), or "Yet though He slay me, yet I will praise Him." Adversity in this life is inevitable. But we have a choice whether to find blessing or cursing in the midst of those circumstances.

God bless you.

45 posted on 12/30/2004 1:30:03 PM PST by My2Cents (Is it OK to wish people a "Happy New Year"?)
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To: aimhigh

If memory serves me correctly, Noah warned his neighbors. They laughed at him.


46 posted on 12/30/2004 1:32:19 PM PST by My2Cents (Is it OK to wish people a "Happy New Year"?)
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To: aimhigh

GOD didn't drown them - THEY REFUSED TO GET ON THE BOAT!! If I remember correctly they laughed and joked about Noah - and called him crazy.

Deut 28-29 - "I have set before you this day life and death - NOW YOU CHOOSE!! Then .. in GOD's mercy HE gave people a clue, and HE said, "but choose life". Evidently, the people in Noah's day made the wrong choice.

So .. how did you choose ..??


47 posted on 12/30/2004 1:33:12 PM PST by CyberAnt (Where are the dem supporters? - try the trash cans in back of the abortion clinics.)
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To: Lorianne
Lorianne, thank you for posting this. After so many disasters I have felt badly that I didn't "feel" something......more. I can relate to this line in the article: "But I can't multiply what I feel by 10,000 or 40,000, or even by ten. We know more than we can feel. And we respond as best we can".
And now it appears we must mulitipy it by over 400,000. I cannot comprehend this kind of disaster. We know more than we can feel.
48 posted on 12/30/2004 1:33:18 PM PST by Boxsford
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To: Voss
You probably could have made it through your day just fine without benefit of my thoughts, hey?

And you could feel the same way about me ... but if we just wanted to talk to ourselves, we could be washing dishes right now!

49 posted on 12/30/2004 1:35:14 PM PST by Tax-chick (To turn the hearts of the fathers to the children, and the disobedient to the wisdom of the just.)
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To: Voss

Thank you! Your post said it all.


50 posted on 12/30/2004 1:39:17 PM PST by Boxsford
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To: bjs1779
Weisel speaks of man's inhumanity to man.

This is a different tragedy entirely.

One is unforgivable, the other unimaginable.

51 posted on 12/30/2004 1:39:26 PM PST by OldFriend (PRAY FOR MAJ. TAMMY DUCKWORTH)
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To: My2Cents
Worth repeating:

"The fact that we even call such events "tragic" speaks of the value we give to life and people's well-being -- a value which is itself sparked by God, I believe. The fact that we feel sorrow at the loss of life -- whether that number be one, or 100,000 -- proves, to me, that God is there.

52 posted on 12/30/2004 1:47:33 PM PST by Boxsford
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To: Lexington Green

In the immortal words of Neil Diamond, "and the grass don't pay no mind"


53 posted on 12/30/2004 1:57:59 PM PST by Old Professer (When the fear of dying no longer obtains no act is unimaginable.)
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To: OldFriend
Weisel speaks of man's inhumanity to man.

That's correct, but your statement still fits either situation.

"Sometimes there are no answers. Only those left to grieve for a lifetime."

54 posted on 12/30/2004 2:24:07 PM PST by bjs1779
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To: Lorianne; All
If this earthquake was caused by "very ordinary" forces, i.e. the alignment of the planets and the corresponding pressure on the tectonic plates (Note: This is what I believe), then the "God did it" folks kind of get their legs cut off..

Here's some interesting info from this thread:

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1310099/posts

Venkatanathan, said, 'we predicted that the disaster will occur on 26 December 2004 at 00:30 (GMT) with 3.54 N latitude and 97.17E longitude, which is located near the coast of Banyak Island, Sumatra, Indonesia, with a magnitude at around 6 to 7. The actual calamity occurred on 26 December 2004 at 00:58 (GMT), with 3.298 N latitude and 95.779 E longitude, located off the west coast of northern Sumatra'.

The difference in distance between the predicted place and the epicentre was 157.11899 km with a time difference of 28 minutes. He also said the team had predicted that the after-shocks would occur at 700 km to the South of the epicentre between 5 pm and 6 pm. This was recorded with permissible error. It occurred at 157 km from the epicentre. That is with the error of 521 km.

Venkatanathan and his guide N Rajeshwara Rao, research supervisor as he calls him, admit that 'we didn't expect the extent of damage it will cause to the Tamilnadu coast, since we expected the magnitude might be around 7.0, which cannot damage Tamilnadu. We never expected the consequent tidal waves that would have such a devasting effect on the coastal areas of Tamilnadu, admitted Rajeshwara Rao.

Venkatanathan explained that the prediction was based on a novel method developed by the team. According to the method, when two or more planets, Sun and the Moon get aligned more or less in line (0 to 180 degree) with the earth it could affect the angular momentum of the earth and decrease the speed of rotation of the earth which could trigger an earthquake.

But in order to trigger an earthquake in one particular place, two conditions should be taken into consideration, said Venkatanathan. One is the distance of the planetary configurations and two the directions of force acting at the possible epicenter.

Venkatanathan also clarified that by analysing the earthquakes that had occurred over the last 100 years, it was inferred that there was a role of planetary configurations in triggering earthquakes. He added that the team had earlier predicted possibility of earthquake occurrences at 27 places, among which Assam was one, and presented a report at the International Conference of 'Hazards 2004' held at National Geophysical Research Institute, Hyderabad.

He said the success of the prediction rate achieved so far was around 75 to 80 per cent within a time-frame of plus or minus three to four days.

55 posted on 12/30/2004 2:42:54 PM PST by AmericaUnited
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To: ex-Texan
Perhaps . . . Just perhaps it was something other than G-d playing with a HAARP Weather Control includes earthquakes, tsunamies, hurricanes, water spouts, or Whatever. Yada, yada, yada. The mystery deepends.

Codswallop! HAARP does not cause tectonic plates to shift.

56 posted on 12/30/2004 2:49:31 PM PST by RadioAstronomer
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To: AmericaUnited; Lorianne; Physicist
the alignment of the planets

Nope. Planetary alignments do not cause tectonic plate shifts.

57 posted on 12/30/2004 2:53:45 PM PST by RadioAstronomer
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To: My2Cents
If memory serves me correctly, Noah warned his neighbors. They laughed at him.

The countries that were hit actively persecute Christians and Jews. Sri Lanka still rejected help from Isreal after this disaster. They've been warned and have rejected it.

58 posted on 12/30/2004 2:54:11 PM PST by aimhigh
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To: Lorianne

Pure blarney.


59 posted on 12/30/2004 2:56:26 PM PST by Psycho_Bunny (“I know a great deal about the Middle East because I’ve been raising Arabian horses" Patrick Swazey)
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To: CyberAnt
So .. how did you choose ..??

I chose to accept God's salvation through Christ. The Muslim and Buddist countries that got hit didn't. When the Great Tribulation period comes with great earthquakes, storms, etc, will the naysayers still deny God's hand of judgment? Yes.

60 posted on 12/30/2004 3:00:55 PM PST by aimhigh
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