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Jews and Gibson's Passion

Posted on 12/29/2004 11:35:51 PM PST by allymillie

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To: Liz

I've heard that. Twice.



;O)


21 posted on 12/30/2004 2:54:54 AM PST by Petronski (Thank God I'm only watching the game....controlling it....)
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To: Liz


That's sad.


22 posted on 12/30/2004 2:56:25 AM PST by onyx (A BLESSED & MERRY CHRISTMAS TO ALL.)
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To: Petronski

Hey, it was worth saying twice (smirk).


23 posted on 12/30/2004 2:57:04 AM PST by Liz (Wise men are instructed by reason; lesser men, by experience; the ignorant, by necessity. Cicero)
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To: onyx; allymillie; jazzlite; Mo1

The ADL bills itself as a civil rights organization and has an "education" tax status which contradicts its activities to aid and abet intolerance of the Christian faith in the public square.

Seems to me the ADL's tax status should be questioned.

The ADL is more a pressure group, and has been in the forefront of legislating "hate-crime" laws aimed at Christians which have led to Christians being arrested for preaching the Gospels.

The ADL also receives federal tax dollars to train law enforcement---including the FBI---on how to recognize and prosecute "hate crimes."

Problem is the ADL alone owns the dictionary that defines "hate crimes."




24 posted on 12/30/2004 3:09:22 AM PST by Liz (Wise men are instructed by reason; lesser men, by experience; the ignorant, by necessity. Cicero)
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To: Liz
Thank you for enlightening me.

Evidenly it's not enough for you to believe, but the jewish people have to believe too!

25 posted on 12/30/2004 3:31:30 AM PST by OldFriend (PRAY FOR MAJ. TAMMY DUCKWORTH)
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To: Liz
Why am I not surprised that you would send religious Christmas cards to your jewish friends.

How respectful of you.

26 posted on 12/30/2004 3:34:35 AM PST by OldFriend (PRAY FOR MAJ. TAMMY DUCKWORTH)
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To: OldFriend

Maybe her Jewish friends should return the favor.


27 posted on 12/30/2004 4:26:44 AM PST by Netizen (jmo)
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To: allymillie

How special. Just in time for the Christmas holidays.You signed up today just to post this. To vent all about "Passion" and Jews for the umpteenth time. Did you get your rocks off?


28 posted on 12/30/2004 4:33:59 AM PST by dennisw (G_D: Against Amelek for all generations.)
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To: allymillie
I think that Jews needed to be more sensitive towards the Christian faith. A lot of Jewish people i know still will not acknowledge that there was no jewish backlash created by the film

Chill baby. You still got the numbers and the power. There are only 12 million Jews on this planet and 1.5+ billion Christians. Stop getting so wound up when Jews don't toe your party line.

29 posted on 12/30/2004 4:37:39 AM PST by dennisw (G_D: Against Amelek for all generations.)
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To: allymillie
Also, Rabbi Boteach needs to stop being such a hypocrite.

He really gets angry, doesn't he? Even the fakers on professional wrestling don't get that mad. If he were a few decades younger, his school would almost certainly prescribe Ritalin.

30 posted on 12/30/2004 4:45:46 AM PST by Dataman
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To: Liz

Hey Liz, do you know that the new RNC head is a Jew? It's true! He stood at Karl Rove's side to help reelect President Bush. :) Isn't that great?


31 posted on 12/30/2004 4:50:30 AM PST by veronica (Got a script? Go here - http://www.filmmonterey.org/screenwriting.html)
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To: allymillie
I think that Jews needed to be more sensitive towards the Christian faith.

To be fair, the insensitive ones are lefties and/or secularists (though it is nearly impossible to be a conservative secularist). Those leftists who use the accusation of anti-semitism to silence their opposition are no different than the lefties who use the word "racist" in every sentence.

32 posted on 12/30/2004 4:51:34 AM PST by Dataman
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To: Liz

I see that "other" lives mostly in the Great Lakes and ocean.


33 posted on 12/30/2004 4:54:15 AM PST by Dataman
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To: allymillie
Please don't censor this message - i would like to have an honest discussion on this...

Sure you would.

The honest truth is that many people thought that The Passion was a flawed movie, to say the least. Among those people were Christopher Hitchens, the movie critic at The Christian Science Monitor, and other critics.

But in the end the movie was enjoyed by many, disliked by some but had no grand effect on anything in the culture. It didn't raise the level of anti-semitism, though it was a subject anti-semites used to try and incite others.

Mel Gibson made a lot of money from the movie and the marketing, and that's what Hollywood is all about.

People have a right to like or dislike any movie. That's about it.

34 posted on 12/30/2004 4:57:14 AM PST by veronica (Got a script? Go here - http://www.filmmonterey.org/screenwriting.html)
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To: allymillie
I suppose Foxman would have been better pleased if the residents of that part of the world had looked more icelandic so as not to play into stereotypes.

I've heard Gibson explain this a million times. The people who did some of the nasty deeds in the movie were not nasty because they were jewish. They were nasty people who happened to be jewish because that's the part of the world into which Jesus was born. If he'd been born in Africa, Scandinavia, or Korea, he'd have been treated exactly the same.

I've never understood the anti-Semites who blame "jews" for the death of Jesus. Jesus' persecutors must be representative of all mankind for his forgiveness to have any relevance to the rest of us. When he asked God to forgive "them", I don't think he was just speaking for the particular jews and Romans who played a role in his death. He was speaking for all of us.

35 posted on 12/30/2004 4:58:57 AM PST by XJarhead
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To: allymillie
Some Jews need to learn to respect the Christian faith.

Some anti-semites need to get a life and stop whining about Jews.

36 posted on 12/30/2004 4:59:06 AM PST by veronica (Got a script? Go here - http://www.filmmonterey.org/screenwriting.html)
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To: Liz; SJackson; dennisw
The first (secular) Christmas cards in my mailbox are always from Jewish friends.

You have Jewish friends?

I usually send religious Christmas cards to everybody on my list. One year, a very dear Jewish friend apparently couldn't take it anymore and said to me ----very testily---"Why do you send me religious cards, you know I don't celebrate that day?" I replied, "I was hoping that as my friend you would share with me a day that is very meaningful to me, that's why."

So it's all about you. Is that what friendship is about?

I happen to love Victorian Christmas art, so I always send Victorian style Christmas cards to my Christian friends.

I do it to bring them pleasure, because to me, that's what friendship is about. Making others feel good. It's called the spirit of giving, and I hear that's what Christmas is all about.

37 posted on 12/30/2004 5:07:23 AM PST by veronica (Got a script? Go here - http://www.filmmonterey.org/screenwriting.html)
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To: Liz
In a poll taken after The Passion debuted, 71% of American Jews said they thought The Passion was anti-Semetic, leading to the conclusion that 71% of American Jews dislike Christians.

That's your conclusion. I conclude that people who make sweeping generalizations like that are anti-semites, Jewhaters, take your pick of the verbiage that suits your fancy.

38 posted on 12/30/2004 5:18:06 AM PST by veronica (Got a script? Go here - http://www.filmmonterey.org/screenwriting.html)
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To: allymillie

The nonobservant Jew has only antisemitism to act as a rallying point. Without antisemitism the nonobservant Jew has no core value to delineate him from the rest of society.


39 posted on 12/30/2004 5:18:40 AM PST by shrinkermd
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To: veronica

It's Christmas time. The best time of the year for this newbie poster to complain how Jews don't obey her wishes on "The Passion". She's opened her presents, returned what she doesn't like, so now it's time to unleash some "Passion" oriented psycho-babble.


40 posted on 12/30/2004 5:42:20 AM PST by dennisw (G_D: Against Amelek for all generations.)
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