Posted on 12/23/2004 11:49:11 AM PST by quidnunc
Well, Quid, do you have a plan of action based on this article?
Do we need to turn Mecca into a sheet of radioactive glass to convince the mooseslimes that they are worshipping a false god?
Obviously, Michael Scheuer is totally unaware that the Muzzle-em ByeBull (the Koran) teaches that we are all considered sub-human monkeys and pigs !!!
oops... BuyBull
Sort of like the psychology of the battered wife. "If only I'd remembered he likes his steaks medium-rare... if only I hadn't made eye contact with the mailman where he could see... if only I'd worn what he told me to..."
Seems hardly anyone criticizing Sheuer has.
I don't see how you can combat a problem, win a war, unless you realize really what the enemy is up to and what he's about, and what motivates him. As long as we cling to these ideas that they're criminals and we can settle the issue with primarily the use of law enforcement in the court, and a very moderate application of military power, I see no reason for hope. I use an epigram there from Lincoln after the battle of Antietam where he said: "These people just don't realize we're in a bloody war and it's going to have to be fought out to the end", and that's about where we are. - Michael Scheuer
Furthermore, if Osama was about attacking people for who they were, rather than what they're doing, he'd be all over the Chinese, who are athiests, and therefore even worse to Muslim eyes than Christians.
No, no, no- only the Jews are monkeys and pigs. The rest of us are just lowly infidels who should be killed.
Nope, Osama hates us because we are "unbelievers" who are vastly more prosperous than Muslims are and our success is visible throughout the world. The biggest threat to Islam is the success on anything non-Islamic.
No, no, no- only the Jews are monkeys and pigs. The rest of us are just lowly infidels who should be killed.
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Hmmm... sounds like you are deliberately discriminating against liberals. The MPU (Monkey-Pig Union) will be on you're arse unless you publicly admit your error !!! ;-))
And the American people are only on the hit list by virtue of our policies in the region Osama considers the "Islamic sphere" which are interefering with the creation of a new Caliphate or whatever it's suppposed to be called.
Recall that Osama spent a large portion of his time fighting fellow Muslims in Afghanistan alongside the Taleban - he wasn't fighting them for who they were, but for what they were doing.
Our challenge is to kill Osama dead, and take out his organization in the most complete and expeditious manner possible. Misinterpreting the man and his motivations isn't in our interests - America could suffer another "Great Depression" tomorrow and it wouldn't change Osama's views of America one whit so long as we continued to oppose him in his aims.
When the fear of dying no longer obtains no act is unimaginable.
When the fear of dying no longer obtains no act is unimaginable.
the American people are only on the hit list by virtue of our policies in the region Osama considers the "Islamic sphere" which are interefering with the creation of a new Caliphate or whatever it's suppposed to be called.
His first goal is the unification of muslim fighters in the M.E., Saudi especially, and he works to create a wedge between U.S. and S.A, to bring down the Sauds, take over and then the old Caliphate stuff you mention.
But you miss the next part.
What was the goal of the old Caliphate? They were stopped short, but not very and not very long ago.
No, the bottom line is we got another facist world-domination wannabe in new robes.
They hate us cause we ain't Sharia.
Are you arware that the "Islamic shpere" includes Spain and parts of France? IIRC, the muslims who bin Laden fought were his enemies because they did not support the Taliban and were thus "apostate."
Islam, like Communism (it seems to me) is especialy harsh to those who have left the true fold.
As to the question of why they hate us (TM), I regurtitate this passage from Osama's statement of October, 2004:
O American people, I am speaking to tell you about the ideal way to avoid another Manhattan, about war and its causes and results.
Security is an important foundation of human life and free people do not squander their security, contrary to Bush's claims that we hate freedom.
It is known that those who hate freedom do not possess proud souls like those of the 19, may God rest their souls. We fought you because we are free and because we want freedom for our nation. When you squander our security we squander yours.
So not only is our side making the claim that they hate us because we're free, Osama's cribbing from the same book.
Suffice to say I don't believe either version.
As to Osama's chances of pulling off the united Muslim caliphate, I don't see it happening.
It's just a question of how much damage he's going to do until he and his organization are laid to rest.
deters?
Sounds like a plan. Dibs on pushing The Button!
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