America Needs Fatima Says: Free Kids from On-line Porn

www.tfp.org/anf ^ | 12-22-04 | America Needs Fatima

[Moral Hazard]

"Internet pornographers were handed a victory and the opportunity to corrupt American youth with no fines or consequences. "

And would-be censors lost the ability to deny access to porn by consenting adults in the guise of "protecting the children."

[flashbunny]

Parents can free kids from online porn by being parents.

[tacticalogic]

Each brochure has two petitions, one addressed to the Senate Majority Leader Bill Frist and the other to the Speaker of the House Dennis Hastert. Both petitions ask them to use the power of laws to stop pornographers from providing filth to children over the Internet.

Under what enumerated power of Congress do they envision these laws being enacted?

[Blue Screen of Death]

The best, most efficient and most economical internet filters are mommy-filter 1.0 and daddy-filter 1.0. The worst is government-filter 1.0.

[Xenalyte]

America Needs Fatima? I know all those words, but the phrase doesn't make sense.

[Pyro7480]

America Needs Fatima is a campaign of a Catholic organization called the American TFP (Tradition, Family, Property). Its mission is to spread the message of the apparitions in Fatima in 1917.

[RebelBanker]

Here is an article about the group. The author refers to them as a cult.

http://www.unitypublishing.com/NewReligiousMovements/FatimaCult.html

[starfish923]

I agree with all you say.

I just often wonder where these chilcren's parents are. You would THINK that children would be protected by mom and dad.
Guess not.
Who needs the government to be mommy and daddy? Guess the children do.

The parents are just too darn busy living and working in the Land of 1001 Excuses. Sooo, in walks mommy-government to make more unenforced and unpunished laws.

Folks, imho, NOTHING will work because the best protection comes from parents. If they abandon their children, for whichever of the 1001 excuses, the children are doomed.

[Moral Hazard]

From Dictionary.com

Fatima:
Daughter of the Islamic prophet Muhammad. She married Ali, among the first to embrace Islam, and is regarded by Muslims as one of the Four Perfect Women.

Was Fatima one of the daughters he had with the 9-year-old that he married?

[starfish923]

The best, most efficient and most economical internet filters are mommy-filter 1.0 and daddy-filter 1.0. The worst is government-filter 1.0.

Bingo.
You obviously don't live or work in the Land of 1001 Excuses.

[newgeezer]

"Free" or "Protect" (make up your mind). Either way, good luck.

Meanwhile, porn, like most everything else, tends to boil down to supply and demand. Since you can't eliminate the supply, you need to do what you can to eliminate the demand.

It works in my house.

[starfish923]

Free Kids from On-line Porn , flashbunny wrote: Parents can free kids from online porn by being parents.

BINGO redux.

[KevinDavis]

That is true.. Parents should monitor what the kids are doing.. Not the Government.

[sauropod]

investigate later

[Pyro7480]

This is the paragraph that caused me to doubt the accuracy of the article.

Boys and young men who are selected for membership in the group soon learn to have contempt for their parents while also plying them with requests for money to support the work of the group. By demanding celibacy of lay members, the group robs these parents of grandchildren and robs the Church of strong Catholic husbands and fathers and of the Catholic children they would have produced.

That couldn't be further from the truth. There are TFPers who go to my church, and they HARDLY have contempt for their parents. Also, the author makes the assumption that all of these men were called to married life, which is not necessarily true. The TFP have some weird views, but I wouldn't call them a cult at all.

[Xenalyte]

How does a group spread a message that hasn't yet been opened? (I understand the third one is yet sealed.)

[Pyro7480]

Fatima is a name of a town in Portugal where many Catholics believe Mary appeared to three shepherd children in 1917.

[Pyro7480]

How does a group spread a message that hasn't yet been opened?

The basic message is well-known, which is the conversion of the world to the Catholic faith, so that a chastisement of the world by God can be avoided.

[Xenalyte]

Sounds a bit presumptuous to this Episcopalian.