The menora wars [The Christmas Haters Attack Chanukah]

Jerusalem Post ^ | Dec. 20, 2004 | David Eliezrie

[Fatalis]

As historian Charles Silberman described almost 20 years ago in his book A Certain People, the dominant attitude in modern Jewish life when he was growing up was, "Shhh, let's not make too much noise."

Sheesh. Few things bring a smile like loud, happy, Jewish noise.

[RichInOC]

Put on your yarmulke
Its time for Hanukkah
So much funnaka
To celebrate Hanukkah

Hanukkah is the festival of lights
Instead of one day of presents
We get eight crazy nights

When you feel like the only kid in town
Without a Christmas tree
Here's a new list of people who are Jewish
Just like you and me

Winona Ryder,
Drinks Manischewitz wine
Then spins a draydle with Ralph Lauren and Calvin Klein

Guess who gives and receives
Loads of Hanukkah toys
The girls from Veruca Salt and all three Beastie Boys

Lenny Kravitz is half Jewish,
Courtney Love is half too
Put them together
What a funky bad ass Jew

We got Harvey Keitel
And flash dancer Jennifer Beals
Yasmine Bleeth from Baywatch is Jewish
And yes her boobs are real

Put on your yarmulka
Its time for Hanukkah
2 time Ocsar winning Dustin Hoffmanaka
celebrates Hanukkah

O.J. Simpson
Still not a Jew
But guess who is,
The guy who does the voice for Scooby Doo

Bob Dylan was born a Jew
Then he wasn't
but now he's back,
Mary Tyler Moore's husband is Jewish
'Cause we're pretty good in the sack.

Guess who got bar-mitzvahed
On the PGA tour
No I'm not talking about Tiger Woods
I'm talkin' about Mr. Happy Gilmore.

So many Jews are in the show biz
Bruce Springsteen isn't
But my mother thinks he is.

Tell the world-amanaka
It's time for Hanukkah
It's not pronounced Ch-nakah
The C is silent in Hanukkah
So get your hooked on phonica
Get drunk in Tijuanaka
If you really really wannaka
Have a happy happy happy happy Hanukkah!

[Thinkin' Gal]

Keep your eye on the matzah ball.

Too late!

[Fatalis]

Chabad has definitely been the leader in getting Menorah's in public places. I've seen this through the years. If nothing else, this is good for Jewish children who feel left out at Christmas time.

It's good for Christians, we love it. We like houses decked in blue lights too.

[dennisw]

Chabad has definitely been the leader in getting Menorah's in public places. I've seen this through the years. If nothing else, this is good for Jewish children who feel left out at Christmas time.

It's good for Christians, we love it. We like houses decked in blue lights too.

I like outdoor Christmas displays at homes. They get better each year with inflatable Santas and lit up reindeers with moving heads. Christ-child in manger scenes too. I like it all. (me being Jewish)

[DaveTesla]

Atheism IS a religion.
Leftist's want to do away with G_D so they cam become
his replacement.
There is a clear agenda here.
Aways has been.
That's why communist country's outlaw and suppress
religion.
My G_D is the god of Abraham.
Not them.
My G_D told me not to worship idols or have any other
G_D but him.
My G_D told me not to sacrifice my seed to Moloch.
My G_D told me not to lie down with man as if he were a woman.
My G_D told me not to waste my gift of life away in a
drunken drugged stupor, but to honor him by working night and day.
Now the Left not only wants us to do these things that G_D
commanded us not to do but wants us to get others to do
them too.
I think there is a conflict of interest here.
On the Right hand you have G_D of Abraham and
on the Left hand you have the religion of Babylon.
Leftism is a variation on the story of Babel. They are
people trying to reach heaven (or build a heaven on
earth) by human means. That is why they end in such
misery and horror. Leftism is a form of idolatry
in which human beings worship themselves as though they
were gods and saviors.

[Wilhelm Tell]

Did you ever notice that it is the trendy leftist "multiculturists" who are offended whenever Jews practice Jewish traditions and Christians practice Christian traditions? You have different communities of faith that are not "offended" by one-another and then step in angry "multiculturists" who claim they are "offended" thanks to their superior "sensitivity" and then the "multiculturists" demand that Jews stop being Jews, Christians stop being Christians, etc.

[Siamese Princess]

The reason some Jews want to keep menorahs off of public property is very simple -- if a menorah is acceptable, why not a creche? They are so determined to bar expressions of Christianity on public property that they are willing to bar expressions of Judaism, as well. At least they are being consistent. A "holiday" tree may be tolerated, though.

[Convert from ECUSA]

Well, here is one Christian that does not, repeat, does not find a public display of the menorah offensive, whether it is in the public square or in someone's yard. I wish all these "sensitive" "multiculturalists" who get "offended" when someone breaks wind the wrong way would hush up and go get a life! They want to try and remove God from everything except maybe in the private home or specific religious building (as long as no public displays). Feh, bunch of no-count carpetbaggers trying to finish Lenin's work for him! I'm still waiting to see if the ACLU and similar nests of vipers start kicking up a fuss when a Muslim display is put in a public place. Dollars to donuts I'll greatly age while I wait. It is only Christianity and Judaism that the ACLU and similar rodents want to silence.

[gogogodzilla]

It's more like the older Jew's in America still remember the religious discrimination from the 30's, 40's, and 50's.

Such as limits to the number of Jew's allowed in Ivy League universities. Or private golf clubs that were Judenrein.

They had to hide their Judaism to progress in their careers and fear that possibly broadcasting one's Jewishness might lead to another case of religious intolerance in America.

If you'd like to see a movie that does a very good job in highlighting American religious intolerance toward Jews in the 1940s, try the 'Gentleman's Agreement' produced in 1947 directed by Elia Kazan. It is about a newspaper reporter who pretends to be Jewish in hopes of getting a good news story.

[Alouette]

Does this mean that Churches and Synagogs should show up at Gay "Pride" events and publicly attack them and it would not be hate?

Christian Protestors Face 47 Years in Jail for Encounter at 'Gay Pride' Event in Philadelphia

[SJackson]

If you'd like to be on this middle east/political ping list, please FR mail me.

[Mamzelle]

re: "Shhh, let's not make too much noise." )))

LOL! Oh, please. Let's not make too much noise, we're too humble and modest, but let's sue the hell out of this municipality? Again, please.

This has been a season of unprecedented cynicism, so I'll add my own cynical take--these litigious organizations oppose the menorah display because they need a legal ground to oppose any display of Christian symbols. And Christians hope that having menorahs displayed may bring more tolerance for Christian displays. We'll see how it all shakes out--and shakes down in court.

[Mamzelle]

re: Such as limits to the number of Jew's allowed in Ivy League universities. Or private golf clubs that were Judenrein. )))

Ah, this old chestnut. When trotting it out for uber-sympathy among Americans, do keep in mind that you just might be talking to people who couldn't afford to go to school at all in this bright land of opportunity, and that they might laugh at "Gee, Dad couldn't get into the country club of his choice in America! Poor little me! "-I'm afraid this one doesn't break my heart in the least.

You're talking about exploiting the struggles of your ancestors to make pity points in the present? Well, I'd be happy to talk about my Cherokee forebears who picked up chestnuts along what is now the Blue Ridge Parkway in order to have enough money to buy a pair of shoes to go to school--in America.

Enough with the "Uncle Mo couldn't play golf with Episcopalians!" It's gotten very tiresome, particularly after having watched 76% of US Jews vote against the pro-Israel presidential candidate.

[massgopguy]

Georgetown Univ. was going to take the Crucifixes down from the classroom walls until a Jewish Professor spoke up reminding the college of its roots. Thank God.

[wardaddy]

Alan Dershowitz, a Jew who never hides his identity, told me when I congratulated him on lighting the menora in Harvard Yard: "It's private property. I'm still opposed to the menora on publicly-owned property."

Still a schmuck I see.

[wardaddy]

Unfortunately, you are spot on.

[American in Israel]

I guess the difference is Homosexuals who attack Church goers are lifted up as heros, and Church goers get prison sentances a lot longer than murderers do.

It is called persicution in the dictionary, look under pogrom, the next step.

[gogogodzilla]

Your post sounds like the old canard - "It could be worse."

I'll admit, it could have been worse. Britain could have won the Revolutionary War. Or the South could have beaten the North. Or any number of scenarios.

Just because a circumstance isn't the worst evil imaginable doesn't give you an excuse to ignore it.

If something is wrong, then it should be corrected. EVEN IF IT COULD BE WORSE.

[Jeremiah Jr]

My Menorah
http://www.americancomedynetwork.com/FLASH/my_menorah.htm