Posted on 12/18/2004 5:56:30 PM PST by PatrickHenry
just tripping the rift, what the heck, gonna die anyway
never mind, next time it occurs, I'll alert you
Did you miss the part about the data grazing? Hovind and Morris do not look at all the data, but just those parts that support their conclusions.
Again, we are talking around each other I think. I am not saying creationism should be taught in the classroom. I am say that as students are told to look at the subject of how the earth got here and evolved, creationism should be discussed. That is different than saying it should be taught. But then, maybe I am not convying this thought clearly.
On evolutions being taught from the pulpit, I do believe it is regularly studied in many churches. Why do you think it has not been. It is studied for the very reason I just suggested that creationism should be discussed in school - to complete ones education and understanding of the subject matter.
What has me really confused are your comments and the comments of others that seem to be saying the discussion should be limited in a course setting. I can not understand how that forwards good learning and a proper examination of the subject matter. Can you explain that to me please?
The Butterfly Effect common to chaos theory, is also known as sensitive dependence on initial conditions. Just a small change in the initial conditions can drastically change the long-term behavior of a system.
Flapdoodle!
Is that like a flapjack? Please clarify
Intellectual entropy?
Are you referring to my post #850?
I don’t change the text when I am quoting.
The equations for this system also seemed to give rise to entirely random behavior. However, when he graphed it, a surprising thing happened. The output always stayed on a curve, a double spiral. There were only two kinds of order previously known: a steady state, in which the variables never change, and periodic behavior, in which the system goes into a loop, repeating itself indefinitely. Lorenz's equations were definitely ordered - they always followed a spiral. They never settled down to a single point, but since they never repeated the same thing, they weren't periodic either. He called the image he got when he graphed the equations the Lorenz attractor
Ever hear of a dictionary? We used those in grade school as well.
For the lurkers, here is the website you are copying from:
http://library.thinkquest.org/3120/text/c-his1.htm
Actually, chaos theory is pretty cool stuff.
More importantly, you know it's cool and is the answer, not evolution
Gneiss-ly done!
From here:
http://library.thinkquest.org/3120/text/c-his1.htm
"The equations for this system also seemed to give rise to entirely random behavior. However, when he graphed it, a surprising thing happened. The output always stayed on a curve, a double spiral. There were only two kinds of order previously known: a steady state, in which the variables never change, and periodic behavior, in which the system goes into a loop, repeating itself indefinitely. Lorenz's equations are definitely ordered - they always followed a spiral. They never settled down to a single point, but since they never repeated the same thing, they weren't periodic either. He called the image he got when he graphed the equations the Lorenz attractor."
Your post:
"The equations for this system also seemed to give rise to entirely random behavior. However, when he graphed it, a surprising thing happened. The output always stayed on a curve, a double spiral. There were only two kinds of order previously known: a steady state, in which the variables never change, and periodic behavior, in which the system goes into a loop, repeating itself indefinitely. Lorenz's equations were definitely ordered - they always followed a spiral. They never settled down to a single point, but since they never repeated the same thing, they weren't periodic either. He called the image he got when he graphed the equations the Lorenz attractor"
I am not wrong. Like it or not, they are identical.
Are insults your only way to try and "win" an argument?
Good link. But I can figure out how to fit it into my List-O-Links. I don't yet have a section for links about idiots.
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