WHETHER THE SECOND AMENDMENT SECURES AN INDIVIDUAL RIGHT

United States Department of Justice - Office of Legal Counsel ^ | August 24, 2004 | DOJ

[Centurion2000]

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[TLI]

Exactly. Imagine if you had to register and pay a fee to exercise your 1st Amendment rights.

""You mean like McCain-Feingold?""

I would include concealed carry right along with that. If I have to pay $$ on a regular basis and submit fingerprints to stick a Glock in my coat pocket before going to the local Stop-N-Rob after dark I consider that to be not only infringement but registration as well.

[TERMINATTOR]

An individual right to infringements?

- People, Places, and Things -

They still don't get "shall not be infringed". The DOJ refuses to address that phrase. They will continue to discriminate in the traditional fashon against....

PEOPLE: Certain classes of people should be denied their God given inalienable RKBA. Ex-cons (aka "felons"), ex post facto "felons" (before GCA '68), anyone with a "restraining order", anyone convicted of a misdimeanor that MIGHT have been sentenced to a year or more, anyone the gov says is nuts, anyone the gov says is a "terrorist", too old, too young, too stupid, too many guns, too un-american, too conservative, too prone to "hate crimes" or ecological crimes (felony to leak oil or anti-freeze), an enemy of the state, politically incorrect, unregistered, no permit,.... The list is forever growing.

PLACES: Criminal empowerment zones; NO GUNS (for peons) - Schools, x number of feet from schools, goverment buildings, public parks (fed, state, county, city, biosphere, etc.), "endangered species" habitats, wetlands, fragile desert enviroments (dry lands), historic sites, cultural preserves, national monuments, "migrant"(illegal alien) trails, airports, bus and train stations, planes, boats, trains, busses, yada yada. The possibilities are endless.

THINGS: Saturday nite specials, sniper rifles, assault weapons, too cheap, too expensive, too many rounds, too short, too powerfull, too fast, too scarry, too covert (pen, cane, belt buckle, umbrella, etc.), too quiet (noise supressors), too loud, too big, too small, made in a foreign country, made before a certain date, made after a certain date, non-sporting purposes, imported before a certain date, imported after a certain date, terrorists weapon of choice, cop killer, WMD, shoots orbiting satelites, and on and on....

What part of "shall not be infringed" do you(the DOJ) not understand!!!!????

Wake me when the DOJ starts busting those guys down the hall, the BATFE, for infringing on the right of the People to keep and bear arms.

[superskunk]

Wake me when the DOJ starts busting those guys down the hall, the BATFE, for infringing on the right of the People to keep and bear arms.


Never going to happen. They're all symptoms of the same problem: A hate, and loathing for the constitution and the freedoms that is safeguards.

[1Old Pro]

Although we do not address the scope of the right, our examination of the original meaning of the Amendment provides extensive reasons to conclude that the Second Amendment secures an individual right

Translation, you can keep a shotgun in your house but forget about changing the restrictions on concealed carry.

[StoneColdGOP]

BTTT!

[superskunk]

As if the ACLU and it's membership would survive the struggle.

I think they would, initially. They would quickly surrend and eventually become trustees (traitors). Not one of them would have the set of stones to fight for 'civil liberties' if it could actually cost them their lives.

[XHogPilot]

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[TLI]

Do we really need lawyers to tell us what we can read for ourselves in the Constitution?

Heck yes, of course we need a lawyer to tell us what to think. Just ask one.

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