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Hack Attack on Men's News Daily
Men's News Daily ^ | 17 December 2004 | Self

Posted on 12/17/2004 1:02:48 PM PST by mrustow

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To: mrustow
Actually he is right. The original term of hacker has been perverted. Hacker was, initially, a positive term.

However, you are correct in the current usage of the word.

41 posted on 12/17/2004 3:59:46 PM PST by Texaggie79 (Did I just say that?)
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To: JoJo Gunn

Thanks a bunch!


42 posted on 12/17/2004 4:28:10 PM PST by mrustow ("And when Moses saw the golden calf, he shouted out to the heavens, 'Jesus, Mary, and Joseph!'")
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To: mrustow

Look. Establish your credentials or STFU. There are lots of us here who are pros at this stuff. Your definitions are incomplete and ludicrous. Hackers want to beware of coming anywhere near my work.


43 posted on 12/17/2004 4:57:11 PM PST by MineralMan (godless atheist)
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To: Robert_Paulson2

"just my guess, and probably WRONG.
"

Not necessarily wrong. However, having a virtual server on a remote host is a tough nut, really. I wouldn't do it.

I do my sites in FrontPage, because I'm comfy with it. But I do straight hosting and I can wipe the site at any time. Indeed, I've had to do that a few times for various reasons.

Having a trusted host for several years means that I can call them and have them do whatever I want. They know me. A hacker attack on my site would last about five minutes after I find out about it, and I check my site about 12 times a day.

I have no interest in operating any server, virtual or real. I just want my site up and running.

FrontPage gets trashed a lot, but for most folks, it's a very workable way to get stuff on the web, very usable and it's familiar to Office users.

Now, I wouldn't run a political site in FrontPage, but for the kind of stuff I do, it's ideal.


44 posted on 12/17/2004 5:04:29 PM PST by MineralMan (godless atheist)
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To: MineralMan
I have no interest in operating any server, virtual or real.

Dude...that's half the fun for me. Everything I run -- from my mail systems, FTP servers and web sites -- are all on my own boxen. It's great being your own admin. :o)

45 posted on 12/17/2004 6:36:28 PM PST by Prime Choice (Merry Christmas and a Happy New Year! ...And no, my powers can only be used for Good.)
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To: MineralMan
Look. Establish your credentials or STFU. There are lots of us here who are pros at this stuff. Your definitions are incomplete and ludicrous. Hackers want to beware of coming anywhere near my work.

Who died and made you boss? In case you’re a newbie or just happened to have been raised by wolves, you don’t get to tell people to STFU here. You STFU, you phony! What are you, some thread nanny type who lost her way from lucianne.com?

And just because I showed you up on another thread, doesn’t give you the right to throw a temper tantrum here.

Now that we’ve got your etiquette lesson out of the way, I notice that you already used “hacker” the same way I did (“Hackers want to beware…”), so you’ll have to tell yourself to STFU. And then you’ll have to tell Texaggie79 the same thing.

Bellowing about your “abilities,” and trying to intimidate people into silence may impress some people. You’ve been made.

Oh, and while you’re at it, you need to write the people at dictionary.com, and tell them to STFU, too.

“Hacker” at dictionary.com.

hack·er1   Audio pronunciation of "hacker" ( P )  Pronunciation Key  (hkr)
n. Informal
  1. One who is proficient at using or programming a computer; a computer buff.
  2. One who uses programming skills to gain illegal access to a computer network or file.
  3. One who enthusiastically pursues a game or sport: a weekend tennis hacker.


[Perhaps from hacker, amateurish or inept golfer or tennis player (possibly from hack1), or perhaps from hack, practical joke, clever scheme (from dialectal hack, to embarrass, confuse, play a trick on).]

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Source: The American Heritage® Dictionary of the English Language, Fourth Edition
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hacker

n 1: someone who plays golf poorly 2: a programmer who breaks into computer systems in order to steal or change or destroy information as a form of cyber-terrorism [syn: cyber-terrorist, cyberpunk] 3: a programmer for whom computing is its own reward; may enjoy the challenge of breaking into other computers but does no harm; "true hackers subscribe to a code of ethics and look down upon crackers" 4: one who works hard at boring tasks [syn: hack, drudge]

Source: WordNet ® 2.0, © 2003 Princeton University

46 posted on 12/17/2004 7:57:52 PM PST by mrustow ("And when Moses saw the golden calf, he shouted out to the heavens, 'Jesus, Mary, and Joseph!'")
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To: All

BTTT


47 posted on 12/17/2004 8:27:24 PM PST by mrustow ("And when Moses saw the golden calf, he shouted out to the heavens, 'Jesus, Mary, and Joseph!'")
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To: Texaggie79

I'm free again from the trigger happy ones.


48 posted on 12/17/2004 9:19:27 PM PST by Sir Gawain
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To: mrustow

Thanks for the ping!


49 posted on 12/17/2004 9:51:55 PM PST by Alamo-Girl
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To: Sir Gawain

I guess you learned your lesson.....


50 posted on 12/18/2004 1:09:29 AM PST by Texaggie79 (Did I just say that?)
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To: Texaggie79

And the site is still hijacked! I'll be goddamned!


51 posted on 12/18/2004 6:35:46 AM PST by mrustow ("And when Moses saw the golden calf, he shouted out to the heavens, 'Jesus, Mary, and Joseph!'")
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To: Alamo-Girl

My pleasure!


52 posted on 12/18/2004 6:36:36 AM PST by mrustow ("And when Moses saw the golden calf, he shouted out to the heavens, 'Jesus, Mary, and Joseph!'")
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To: Texaggie79

I do believe it was in the movie Hackers 2. "These guys aren't hackers, they're crackers, i'm the hacker". A security admin talking about "hacking". It's not hacking, it's cracking. They crack the code.


53 posted on 12/22/2004 7:32:39 AM PST by KenCoTwelve (Frag for jesus, Frag for life. Swa7)
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