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Former Senior Aide to Pat Buchanan Spoke at Holocaust Deniers’ Meeting
Israel National News ^ | 08:45 Dec 16, '04 / 4 Tevet 5765

Posted on 12/15/2004 11:22:09 PM PST by yonif

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To: Zavien Doombringer
He's been Zotted!

Good riddance.

161 posted on 12/16/2004 12:44:29 PM PST by malakhi
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To: Zavien Doombringer

That's my third or forth realtime zot in two years. But this one was harder on me so I'm out for more-what of the other deniers on this Israel-ping thread?

/As I ask this I see them slink away, whistling, as if they did not say what they said/


162 posted on 12/16/2004 12:45:50 PM PST by sully777 (our descendants will be enslaved by political expediency and expenditure)
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To: dennisw

It's getting that way here in Kentucky. My Native American heritage comes from around the Tenn. border. You still run into morons now and then though.


163 posted on 12/16/2004 12:46:23 PM PST by reagandemo (The battle is near are you ready for the sacrifice?)
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To: Poohbah

You killed it. And him a war hero just like Kerry. You should be ashamed.


164 posted on 12/16/2004 1:04:24 PM PST by OSHA (My brother found a grilled cheese sandwich with the image of manger hay on it.)
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To: Bella_Bru

I don't deny it.

I dislike people like you who set themselves above others, and proclaim yourselves to be moral arbiters, deciding whom to scold and interrogate. Go to he--.


With your suspicion and paranoia, you belong in the Democrat party. Stop writing me.


165 posted on 12/16/2004 1:07:02 PM PST by Finalapproach29er (You can drive from coast to coast and never pass through a single county won by Kerry.)
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To: Finalapproach29er; SJackson
LMAO! You are just upset that you cannot answer to what SJackson quoted from Buchanan's views on the Holocaust. He's a denier and many of his followers aren't far off.

Go to he--.

Piss off. I have no need to respond to Herr Buchanan supporters that often anyway.

166 posted on 12/16/2004 1:16:03 PM PST by Bella_Bru (You're about as funny as a case sensitive search engine.)
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To: risk
"In his 1999 book, A Republic, Not an Empire, Buchanan argued that the U.S. should not have gone to war against Nazi Germany."

Since President Bush's grandfather, Prescott Bush, was a director and share holder in the UNION bank, deeply involved in financing the Nazi regime, and in fact was fined a million dollars for trading with the enemy, this statement by Buchanan only reveals that he is a died in the wool, multi-generational Bush supporter.

168 posted on 12/16/2004 1:31:25 PM PST by paleocon patriarch ("Never attribute to a conspiracy that which can be explained by incompetence.")
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To: shanscom

I suppose he was going to come up with the fact that he was an attorney for a deceased employee of an oil company


169 posted on 12/16/2004 1:36:18 PM PST by Zavien Doombringer (Have you gotten your Viking Kittie Patch today? Freepmail Visualops or myself for details)
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To: mhking

Easy with that button, we still need to have our holiday fun :)


170 posted on 12/16/2004 1:37:15 PM PST by Zavien Doombringer (Have you gotten your Viking Kittie Patch today? Freepmail Visualops or myself for details)
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To: mhking; Zavien Doombringer
"I wanna cast 'Magic Missile!'"
171 posted on 12/16/2004 1:52:00 PM PST by Darksheare ("His heart went dead underneath her gaze" - The Book of Foreshadowed Sorrows.)
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To: Zavien Doombringer

Dang. Post ZOT! What did he/she/it say?


172 posted on 12/16/2004 2:04:58 PM PST by BJClinton (A Perfect Rovian Storm)
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To: BJClinton

It said there was no Holocaust, just a Jewish money-making scam while it claimed to be a vet.


173 posted on 12/16/2004 3:14:46 PM PST by xJones
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To: xJones

Disgusting.


174 posted on 12/16/2004 3:21:32 PM PST by BJClinton (A Perfect Rovian Storm)
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To: duckln
A totally false statement.
(In his 1999 book, A Republic, Not an Empire, Buchanan argued that the U.S. should not have gone to war against Nazi Germany.)

Totally? That's a strong statement, and one you can't support.

I happen to agree with Buchanan on number of issues, but his reputation is well deserved. Let's review some of his eccentric views, from this book alone, starting with the premise. Referring to American efforts to defend liberty around the world as "imperial" speaks directly to our Marxist and Islamist enemies. He's literally playing into their hands from the left. And each of the examples he cites are well-understood as situations where American power actually fought imperialism, from Spanish in the 19th century to Arab in the mideast during the whole 20th century, to Soviet during the Cold War. From


Pat Buchanan in A Republic, Not an Empire

On Defense: US hegemony will backfire to create a less secure world

Our hegemonists our confident that America’s power is too great for any to resist. History teaches otherwise. Every attempt to establish hegemony incites resentment and hostility. Weaker nations instinctively seek security in each other, creating the very combinations the hegemonists most fear. It is a law of history: The thesis calls into being the antithesis; the weak collude to balance off the strong.
Source: “A Republic, Not an Empire,” p. 24

On War & Peace: We attacked Yugoslav territory without Congress’ approval

Before Clinton ordered air strikes on Yugoslavia in the early 1999, US forces had never fought in the Balkans. But today there are 8,000 US troops in Bosnia and a US occupation army in Kosovo. America engaged in acts of war against a nation that did not perpetrate any act of violence against the US or its allies. Clinton’s original ultimatum to Yugoslavia--to attack its troops and sovereign territory if it did not remove its forces from Kosovo--was made without the formal approval of Congress.
Source: “A Republic, Not an Empire,” p. 29

On War & Peace: Kuwait: using force on Iraq was a non-vital imperial burden

Iraqis saw in Kuwait oil-rich and undefended land left behind by a defunct British Empire. In 1991 America had the power and will to force Iraq to disgorge Kuwait. But the day is coming when Americans will tire of imperial burdens. The Gulf, too, will come to be dominated by the most powerful of its littoral states. America must one day soon decide what is vital and what we can let go.
Source: “A Republic, Not an Empire,” p.102

On Foreign Policy: Manifest Destiny OK; Imperialism is not

Annexation of Texas, the Southwest, and California [in the 1800s] was Manifest Destiny, not imperialism. These lands were contiguous, largely empty, easily defensible with a small army, and involved no entanglement with the great powers of Europe. Imperialism is the rule of other peoples against their will, & most Americans recoiled at the idea of colonzing Mexico. The Mexican War was a historic inevitability. Two emerging countries collided along a disputed frontier; the stronger prevailed.
Source: “A Republic, Not an Empire,” p.122

On Foreign Policy: Pre-WWI US wasn’t isolationist; but expansionist

Woodrow Wilson is said to have been the first president to lead America out of “isolation,” but this is a myth. The US was never isolationist. [In the 1800s], America was the most expansionist nation on earth, and by 1900 [under President McKinley], had become an empire. [McKinley and Teddy Roosevelt] made decisions based on what would enhance US power and glory. McKinley and TR were imperialists, not globalists; unilateralists, not multilateralists.
Source: “A Republic, Not an Empire,” p.178

On Foreign Policy: US should have re-armed in 1930s when Japan invaded China

From 1921 to 1933 there was no foreign menace to cause America to re-arm. Germany was defeated, disarmed... and democratic. Japanese militarists did not take the first step toward Asian empire until 1931-32 [when] they occupied Manchuria. By invading, Japan had slammed shut the “open door” there and destroyed the political foundations of [current] treaties. At this point, [the US and UK] should have come out for naval rearmament. Neither did.
Source: “A Republic, Not an Empire,” p.246-8

On Foreign Policy: War guarantees to Poland kept Hitler from attacking USSR

The British-French declarations of war [after Hitler’s invasion of Poland in 1939] impelled Hitler to attack in the West to secure his rear before invading Russia. By redirecting Hitler’s first blow upon themselves, Britain & France bought Stalin two extra years to prepare for Hitler’s attack--and thus saved the Soviet Union for communism. Had Britain & France not given the guarantee to Poland, Hitler would almost surely have delivered the first great blow to Stalin’s Russia. Britain & France would have had additional years to build up their air forces and armies. Had Britain & France not given the war guarantees to Poland, there might have been no Dunkirk, no blitz, no Vichy, no destruction of the Jewish populations. Ultimately, it was not Poland that benefited from Britain’s war guarantee to Warsaw -- but Stalin.
Source: “A Republic, Not an Empire,” p.266

On Foreign Policy: Hitler was no threat to US; sought mastery of Europe only

Following his victory [over France in 1940], Hitler made no overt move to threaten US vital interests. As of mid-1940, his actions argue that beneath the overlay of Nazi ideology, he was driven by a traditional German policy of “The Drive to the East.” In this analysis, Hitler had not wanted war with the West. Hitler saw the world divided into four spheres: Great Britain holding its empire; Japan, dominant in East Asia; Germany, master of Europe; and America, mistress of the Western Hemisphere.
Source: “A Republic, Not an Empire,” p.268-9

On Principles & Values: Original “America First” in 1940s to keep US out of WWII

The America First Committee was born in 1940, after France fell. The committee’s principles [were]:
  1. The US must build an impregnable defense
  2. No foreign power can successfully attack a prepared America
  3. American democracy can be preserved only by keeping out of the European war
  4. “Aid short of war” weakens national defense at home and threatens to involve America in war abroad
The leaders of America First were neither utopians nor pacifists; they believed in peace through strength.
Source: “A Republic, Not an Empire,” p.271-2

On Foreign Policy: FDR forced Japan to attack US as back door to WWII

In early 1941, FDR froze all Japanese assets, cutting off trade, including oil. Without oil, the Japanese empire must wither & die.. The oil embargo was “economic war” against an oil-starved nation. FDR knew the consequences of an oil embargo & approved, because he wanted Japan to attack. A war with Japan was the only way he could take us to war in Europe. FDR seemed anxious to get into the war, [but was] elected on a promise to stay out, [so] FDR needed to maneuver Japan into firing the first shot.
Source: “A Republic, Not an Empire,” p.285-7

On War & Peace: Kuwait War benefited Iran; not US

I did not believe Kuwait was vital to the US. Saddam, after all, had stolen Kuwait’s oil to sell it, and Saudi Arabia could be defended without a war on Baghdad. The nation most likely to acheive hegemony in the Gulf is Iran. Iraq, a third as large and populous, was the Arab counter. If we destroyed it, Iran would be the beneficiary and the US would be left with the obligation to contain both nations, an open-ended commitment America would be unwilling to sustain.
Source: “A Republic, Not an Empire,” p.327

On China: Truculent but contained China is no threat

As China has grown powerful, it has grown truculent. Beijing has disrupted Taiwan’s elections, invaded offshore islands, sold missiles to Iran, sold nuclear technology to Pakistan, and persecuted Christians, Tibetans, and dissidents. Yet, despite its bellicosity, China does not today threaten any vital US interest, & its emergence as a world power need not mean inevitable conflict. For China is already contained - by geography. [The only likely point of conflict without] a blue-water fleet. is Taiwan
Source: “A Republic, Not an Empire,” p.374

On China: Support Free Asia with materiel but no troops

So long as the US guarantees the security of the nations of Free Asia, they, like Europeans, will never undertake to provide for, or to pay for, their own defense. The US should thus unilaterally declare in force the Nixon Doctrine: in future Asian wars, America will provide the weapons of defense for free nations, but Asian soldiers, sailors, and airmen must do the fighting. As the century closes, we should end our role as a front-line fighting state in Asia, and become Free Asia’s arsenal of democracy.
Source: “A Republic, Not an Empire,” p.376

On Foreign Policy: Dissolve Asian security treaties, they’ll defend themselves

While the US should maintain military relations with the friendly states of Asia, we should dissolve all security treaties that require us to go to war, instantly, in the event of an attack on Thailand, Australia, or the Philippines. No vital interest of ours is at risk in those nations. Only by taking away the security blanket will we shock Free Asia into doing what is should have done long ago: organize militarily, as it has economically, to provide for the common defense.
Source: “A Republic, Not an Empire,” p.376

On China: Don’t aggravate Beijing, but don’t appease

US policy toward China should be neither to aggravate bor to appease Beijing. But allowing China to run near $60 billion annual trade surpluses at our expense, while we guarantee low-interest loans to Beijing from the World Bank, is appeasement. American imports and investments there are financing military forces that may one day threaten Asia and the US fleet. As trade and aid have not made China more reasonable, the US should treat China as the Great Power rival it claims to be.

On China: Supporting role only in case of Chinese attacks

Should China move against any of its neighbors, including Taiwan, these nations would surely arm to defend their liberty. But the first defense perimeter of Free Asia should be manned by Asians themselves, united in regional alliances, with the US relegated to a supporting role. Like Shakespeare’s Fortinbras, it has been the role of America to come in at the end, not at the beginning of the family wars of Asia and Europe. Let other nations play Hamlet.
Source: “A Republic, Not an Empire,” p.377

On War & Peace: Israel: Provide for self-defense, but concede land for peace

Israel will not know peace as long as it occupies Arab land.
Source: “A Republic, Not an Empire,” p.382-3

On War & Peace: Palestine: a flag, a land, a capital in Jerusalem

Source: “A Republic, Not an Empire,” p.383

175 posted on 12/16/2004 7:21:01 PM PST by risk
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To: paleocon patriarch
Since President Bush's grandfather, Prescott Bush, was a director and share holder in the UNION bank, deeply involved in financing the Nazi regime . . .

You sound like a Michael Moore fan.

176 posted on 12/16/2004 7:26:31 PM PST by risk
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To: babble-on

#80 a most excellent post. One of the best I've seen. Thank you.


177 posted on 12/16/2004 7:50:21 PM PST by Lijahsbubbe
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To: yonif
Don't dismiss Buchanan yet. He may not run again but I suspect he is grooming Tom Tancredo to run in 2008. See The Internet Brigade.
178 posted on 12/16/2004 7:54:41 PM PST by bayourod (Our troops are already securing our borders against terrorists. They're killing them in Iraq.)
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To: jveritas

The sad thing is there are a lot of people on this site who agree with Buchanan and share his racist views on immigrants and Jews.


179 posted on 12/16/2004 7:55:03 PM PST by COEXERJ145
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To: COEXERJ145

Why is it racist to want to limit immigration? I take the position that it's racist to support the overwhelming of American culture with the imported variety, which is exactly what our elites are doing today. It won't be long before Spanish has an equal footing in our country with English. And for what? So that we can say we're not racist?


180 posted on 12/16/2004 8:09:57 PM PST by risk
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