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Iranian Alert - December 15, 2004 [EST] - Congressman Warns of Iranian Attack on U.S.
Regime Change Iran ^ | 12.15.2004 | DoctorZin

Posted on 12/14/2004 10:13:13 PM PST by DoctorZIn

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1 posted on 12/14/2004 10:13:16 PM PST by DoctorZIn
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Sounds like Weldon is pumping up the PR before he strikes it rich with his new book. Pathetic.


2 posted on 12/14/2004 10:15:52 PM PST by ClintonBeGone (In politics, sometimes it's OK for even a Wolverine to root for a Buckeye win.)
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Join Us At Today's Iranian Alert Thread – The Most Underreported Story Of The Year!

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3 posted on 12/14/2004 10:15:57 PM PST by DoctorZIn (Until they are Free, "We shall all be Iranians!")
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4 posted on 12/14/2004 10:16:22 PM PST by DoctorZIn (Until they are Free, "We shall all be Iranians!")
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To: ClintonBeGone

We will see..


5 posted on 12/14/2004 10:16:47 PM PST by DoctorZIn (Until they are Free, "We shall all be Iranians!")
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U.S. Has No Intention of Joining EU-Iran Talks

December 14, 2004
The Associated Press
Ali Akbar Dareini


TEHRAN, Iran -- Iran is willing to talk with the United States about a nuclear program that Washington alleges is aimed at secretly acquiring the bomb, Foreign Minister Kamal Kharrazi said Monday. The White House, however, rejected the idea.

Germany, Britain and France launched new negotiations with Iran on Monday to try to persuade Tehran to abandon any nuclear program that could be used for weapons, in return for aid to build up its civilian energy program.

Kharrazi told a news conference that talks with Washington could also be possible. The United States broke diplomatic relations with Iran after militant students seized the U.S. Embassy in Tehran in 1979.

"If negotiations are on the basis of equality and mutual respect in the same way we are talking to Europeans now, there is no reason not to talk to others," Kharrazi said when asked whether Tehran was also willing to talk to the United States about its nuclear program.

The White House made plain it has no intention of joining the talks.

"When it comes to Iran, we are very supportive of the efforts by our European friends to get Iran to abandon its nuclear weapons ambitions. And we stay in close contact with our European friends on their discussions and the progress that they have made ... That's the way we're approaching this issue," White House press secretary Scott McClellan said. "What we believe is important is that ultimately Iran agree to end its nuclear weapons program, not just suspend it."

Iran's reformers support dialogue with Washington but hard-liners are opposed to any rapprochement, arguing that the only U.S. goal is to bring about the collapse of the ruling Islamic establishment.

Some Europeans have hoped America's possible engagement in talks with Iran would increase pressure on Tehran to permanently abandon any weapons program and reassure its rulers that Washington was not seeking their overthrow.

Kharrazi, addressing the news conference with his South African counterpart, Nkosazana Dlamini Zuma, said Iran will assess the talks with European countries within three months if new negotiations do not meet Iran's demand to use its nuclear program for domestic energy purposes.

"If we see that talks are waste of time and have no results, definitely we will make our own decisions," he said.

Kharrazi described the talks as "very serious" and dismissed allegations that Tehran was stalling, insisting that Iran had "no interest in wasting time."

Iran agreed to a temporary deal with the Europeans last month to suspend uranium enrichment but has insisted that the freeze is voluntary and short.

Zuma, whose country is an influential member of the International Atomic Energy Agency, the U.N. nuclear watchdog, said South Africa defends "Iran's right for peaceful use of nuclear technology," but was opposed to a weapons program.

6 posted on 12/14/2004 10:17:17 PM PST by DoctorZIn (Until they are Free, "We shall all be Iranians!")
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And they would do this because...they want regime change imposed on them?


7 posted on 12/14/2004 10:22:33 PM PST by Darkwolf377 (One day in retrospect the years of struggle will strike you as the most beautiful.--Freud)
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To: DoctorZIn

What do you think Doc?


8 posted on 12/14/2004 10:24:39 PM PST by ClintonBeGone (In politics, sometimes it's OK for even a Wolverine to root for a Buckeye win.)
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To: ClintonBeGone

Iran has already declared war on the US.

According to the Jerusalem Post, Iran's supreme leader Khamenei has already declared war against the US back in July:

"We are at war with the enemy," Iran's Supreme Guide Ali Khamenehi told a meeting of mullahs in the city of Hamadan, west of Teheran, last Monday. "The central battlefield [of this war] is Iraq."

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/1168644/posts?page=20#20

Iran has already declared its own preemptive strike doctrine, according to ABC News Online:

Iranian Defence Minister Ali Shamkhani has warned that Iran might launch a preemptive strike against US forces in the region to prevent an attack on its nuclear facilities. ABC News reported:

"We will not sit [with arms folded] to wait for what others will do to us," Mr Shamkhani told Al Jazeera television when asked if Iran would respond to an American attack on its nuclear facilities.

"Some military commanders in Iran are convinced that preventive operations which the Americans talk about are not their monopoly.

"America is not the only one present in the region. We are also present, from Khost to Kandahar in Afghanistan; we are present in the Gulf and we can be present in Iraq.

"The US military presence [in Iraq] will not become an element of strength [for Washington] at our expense. The opposite is true, because their forces would turn into a hostage" in Iranian hands in the event of an attack, he said.

http://www.abc.net.au/news/newsitems/200408/s1180031.htm

And the Supreme Leaders security advisor, Hassan Abbassi said:

There are 29 sensitive sites in the U.S. and in the West. We have already spied on these sites and we know how we are going to attack them.'

http://www.memri.org/bin/articles.cgi?Page=archives&Area=sd&ID=SP72304


9 posted on 12/14/2004 10:25:03 PM PST by DoctorZIn (Until they are Free, "We shall all be Iranians!")
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And they would do this because...they want regime change imposed on them? ...

They don't believe we have the means nor the will to take them on at this time.

And soon they will be a nuclear power.


10 posted on 12/14/2004 10:27:09 PM PST by DoctorZIn (Until they are Free, "We shall all be Iranians!")
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"They don't believe we have the means nor the will to take them on at this time. And soon they will be a nuclear power."

So they blow up one of our nuclear plants for the heck of it?

11 posted on 12/14/2004 10:29:00 PM PST by Darkwolf377 (One day in retrospect the years of struggle will strike you as the most beautiful.--Freud)
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To: ClintonBeGone
What do you think Doc?

It would not surprise me at all that former Iranian leaders have developed highly placed sources inside of Iran. In fact is is almost a certainty.

How one vets these sources is the question.
12 posted on 12/14/2004 10:29:30 PM PST by DoctorZIn (Until they are Free, "We shall all be Iranians!")
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To: Darkwolf377
I cannot confirm the "wisdom" of whatever attacks they may be planning, but they want massive casualties and a major hit on the US economy.
13 posted on 12/14/2004 10:32:32 PM PST by DoctorZIn (Until they are Free, "We shall all be Iranians!")
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To: DoctorZIn
It drives me crazy that the main stream media is not taking these threats by Iran's leaders seriously.

When have you heard anyone report that the Iranian Supreme leader says they are at war in Iran?

Occasionally we will hear a report like those I cite, but the media does not followup on these reports.
14 posted on 12/14/2004 10:37:11 PM PST by DoctorZIn (Until they are Free, "We shall all be Iranians!")
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IMHO, I seriously doubt this would happen. An attack on an operating nuclear power plant could be percieved as a nuclear attack to the American public. If this did happen I'm sure that Americans would demand that Tehran become a radioactive sheet of glass and in the very least, Iran be bombed to the days of Adam and Eve.


15 posted on 12/14/2004 10:49:10 PM PST by Jammz ("The only thing needed for evil to prevail, is for good men to do nothing.")
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To: DoctorZIn; nuconvert; freedom44; Grampa Dave; MeekOneGOP
Robert Baer (See No Evil) as a CIA case officer was on the trail of the bombers of the U.S. Embassy in Beirut April 18, 1983 which killed 63 people including the CIA Middle East director--

--when Baer was jerked out of the region, back to DC to be interrogated by FBI agents in what Tony Lake said was a plot to assassinate Saddam Hussein. Baer remains certain the bombing was an act of Iran. . .

The Islamic Republic remains the supreme state sponsor of terrorism in the world, coming into existence thanks to Jimmy Carter, armed with Russian, Chinese and North Korean missile technology (see Bill Gertz Betrayal), becoming a nuclear power thanks to the UN and the usual suspects.

Before 911 there was Bojinka; the reactor attack Weldon warns of may simply be a precursor plan.

And where between nuclear Pakistan and antenuclear Iran is OBL?


16 posted on 12/14/2004 10:50:01 PM PST by PhilDragoo (Hitlery: das Butch von Buchenvald)
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To: Jammz
IMHO, I seriously doubt this would happen. ...

Iran would never do anything that directly implicates them. That is one reason they are hiding/arresting Al Qaeda members.

They can protect Al Qaeda while acting as if they are fighting them.
17 posted on 12/14/2004 11:06:44 PM PST by DoctorZIn (Until they are Free, "We shall all be Iranians!")
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"I cannot confirm the "wisdom" of whatever attacks they may be planning, but they want massive casualties and a major hit on the US economy."

What is your source on this? Granted, they obviously don't like us and want all kinds of bad stuff to happen to us, but why would they fly a plane into a nuke plant and then face annihilation?

18 posted on 12/15/2004 12:56:09 AM PST by Darkwolf377 (One day in retrospect the years of struggle will strike you as the most beautiful.--Freud)
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To: DoctorZIn
The congressman said in an interview last week that he intended to publish a book early next year outlining the intelligence he has collected from various sources that he said will detail an Iranian plot to conduct a more lethal attack on America than September 11, 2001.

Is he an author or is he a Congressman?

You decide.

19 posted on 12/15/2004 12:57:59 AM PST by EGPWS
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To: DoctorZIn
It drives me crazy that the main stream media is not taking these threats by Iran's leaders seriously.

Perhaps when Scott Peterson sits in the chair or when he!! freezes over, whichever comes first, they will.

20 posted on 12/15/2004 1:00:52 AM PST by EGPWS
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