The Nuclear Solution to Judicially Imposed Atheism

MENS NEWS DAILY.COM ^ | NOVEMBER 12, 2004 | BRUCE WALKER

[goldstategop]

Excellent idea! Force the Democrats to vote up or down on our nation's founding principles. If the Left doesn't like them, there's always Canada.

[jokar]

This would go over like a fart in church.

[goldstategop]

Hey, Jews are included too. As for Islamonazis, if they object - they can go pound sand!

[general_re]

Hey, I know - let's pick a fight we can't possibly win! What a great way to squander a mandate, while simultaneously getting nothing in return!

[WOSG]

"Religion, morality and knowledge, being necessary to good government and the happiness of mankind, shall forever be encouraged. "

A good motto indeed.

[FreedomCalls]

As for Islamonazis, if they object - they can go pound sand!

I'm a Christian and I object.

This is neither Saudi Arabia nor the Vatican. This measure has no chance of getting even the slightest consideration. All it does is give ammunition to the left and possibly persuade centrists that conservatives and Republicans really are looney and ready to impose their religious interpretations on the rest of the US.

[the invisib1e hand]

The problem with that is when the pendulum swings the other way.

There are enough good people pissed off now that judicial tyranny is being overthrown. Besides, the old b*st*rds will eventually retire or die. It's time make sure the generation in law school now has a conscience as well as a brain.

[FreedomCalls]

"Religion, morality and knowledge, being necessary to good government and the happiness of mankind, shall forever be encouraged. " A good motto indeed.

And in America you are free to encourage all you want. Some of us just don't want the government doing it. For instance the above could be construed to force the government to encourage Wicca, Satanism, and Islam. Who decides which religion? Or how it is interpreted?

[SedVictaCatoni]

I'm a Christian and I object.

I concur. The Constitution is a set of operating instructions for a government, not a religious creed.

Furthermore, if you think that liberal Supreme Courts have had fun with "equal protection" and "due process", wait until they get to play with a Constitutional mandate that no person can be prohibited from "the pursuit of happiness"!

[1_Of_We]

For instance the above could be construed to force the government to encourage Wicca, Satanism, and Islam. Who decides which religion?

Quite possibly the mistake in this way of thinking is defining such other 'belief systems' as religions. Traditional religion has been (erroneously?) demoted to just another 'belief system'.

[Fishing-guy]

I concur. Whenever you start having state sponsored religion, the state will eventually want to legislate it.

[goldstategop]

How does the measure infringe on civil liberties? All it does is restate the nation's founding principles. Surely every one can agree these are the ones that led to the origins of modern America. How can America continue to endure if we don't agree on what led to our representative form of government? That is the question.

[goldstategop]

I don't want state-sponsored religion. At the same time, I am equally adamant in rejecting state-sponsored atheism.

[weegee]

"Athesism" is a religion too. The absolute belief that there is "no God" is taken on faith.

Agnostics claim that "you can't know".

Agnostics are't as big of advocates at suppressing religion as atheists are.

[weegee]

The state DOES sponsor religion. Where do you think some religions' 501c3 tax status comes from?

Scientology was not officially recognized as a religion by the United States' government until the Clinton Administration.

[weegee]

Furthermore, if you think that liberal Supreme Courts have had fun with "equal protection" and "due process", wait until they get to play with a Constitutional mandate that no person can be prohibited from "the pursuit of happiness"!

Islamonazi bombers are only pursuing happiness when they kill themselves and others in the hopes of winning 72 virgins.

Meanwhile no one on the left even wants to consider the happiness of a fetal person.

[Dimensio]

"Athesism" is a religion too. The absolute belief that there is "no God" is taken on faith.

Which 'God' -- out of the thousands worshipped throughout human history -- is referenced in "no God"?

Atheism is a lack of theism, nothing more and nothing less. Yes, some atheists take it further by asserting that certain specific God concepts or even all gods in general are nonexistent, but such a declaration is not a requirement for atheism; atheism is defined sufficiently by a mere lack of belief in gods.

Agnosticism is the belief that it is impossible to know whether or not gods exist. It is orthagonal to atheism and theism. It is possible for an agnostic to be a theist -- accepting a god 'on faith' -- or an atheist, believing that it is foolish to worship that which cannot be demonstrated. My experience has been that many people who call themselves agnostics are actually atheists who don't understand that the mere fact that they do not recognize the existence of any gods is sufficient to define them as atheists, even without a declarative statement on whether or not gods exist.

Agnostics are't as big of advocates at suppressing religion as atheists are.

Jews aren't as big of advocates at mandating religion at the federal level as Christians are.

See how fun sweeping generalizations can be?

[WOSG]

"Religion, morality and knowledge, being necessary to good government and the happiness of mankind, shall forever be encouraged. "

"Some of us just don't want the government doing it."

Which is clearly a differnt viewpoint from our founding fathers, given that the above quote was from a piece of Congressional legislation.