Posted on 12/11/2004 10:48:39 AM PST by NormsRevenge
Why not precut the steel here and ship it in country and have them undate units there now?
Oh how I wish Halliburton could do this.
Send them a Purchase Order. And they will perform.
Halliburton is a particularly flexible and responsive company. They would buy the leading and undervalued producer and put their accountants and managers into squeezing maximum productivity out of the factory.
They aren't the biggest and best because of favoritism. During the oil bust of the '80s, they turned around and found other work to do. At a profit.
/john
I suppose that cynicism comes with age and experience.
I can and do believe that at the federal level, it is quite common and acceptable to view "trading a few military lives for ___________________" (fill in the blank): international brownie points, promises from terrorists, saving a few bucks, giving terrorists enemies a few additional days to decide (or rearm), the list is endless. I think it is a criminal tack, first establishing "acceptability" during the Korean war. I have rejected and hated that doctrine since. It fuels my hatred of "diplomats", and it cheapens my view of "leadership". It is nothing short of criminal.
Proportionality has no role in war; never has and never will. Prior to Korea, we fought wars to win, not to cower from potential enemies no matter how strong. The fruits of that blunder are still with us today.
We had the opportunity to send a clear and unambiguous message when our embassy was "taken over" by "students" in Iran. Unfortunately, we had a peanut brain (where the conduct of war is concerned) for president.
Some men are born great leaders, some have greatness thrust upon them. On a historic national level, some are born failures, some consciously walk into the failure pit.
"He was considering getting into the armor business when one of his suppliers visited in November 2003."
So as recently as one year ago his company was not tooled for manufacturing, much less fitting the materials they are ready to produce now. Welcome to the party, but you arrived too late to be complaining that you now have additional capacity that you did not have when the purchasing contracts were being filled.
=== At a profit.
I know I feel better knowing there are those who manage to Profit from war.
Here's hoping they -- and theirs -- never profit SO much that the prospect of war becomes appealing.
/john
You live in Galt?
I don't knlow where he lives, but I live in Ione, about 30 miles from Lodi.
The castle and Tilly's bar come to mind. Best wishes from a former Elk Grover.
=== they are profiting from rebuilding a country recovering from the ravages of Saddam Hussein.
If our military's done the job they were supposed to do, I assure you that the "rebuilding" ongoing is the result of our handiwork, not Hussein's.
Additionally, as has been the case elsewhere, certain private contractors also profit from servicing those awarded exclusive contracts to capitalize on the markets opened up by our "liberation" efforts.
As Brzerzinki so rightly observed in 1999, "Kosovo is a model of what the world is about to be."
Unless you want to contend Halliburton would have work in Iraq -- particularly on the "rebuilding" end of things or, at Gitmo, in the fabrication of million-dollar penal accomodations -- absent War, indeed they do and shall continue for the next thirty years* profit from conflict.
* (the conservative projection of Cheney in 2001 for the WOT's duration)
I can't believe how many of you so-called republicans are falling for this phony armor story. We increased production on the humvees from about 20 per month to 400 over the last year, we don't want to just add on armor, this is called type three armor and is not preferred at all. The type 2 armor is the kit that is manfactured and bolted on and the type 1 are the humvees that are being built from the ground up with armor. Most of the vehicles in Iraq have been armored and you should not take the MSM so seriously. Where were you when they were making all the phony allegations during election? are you guys really republicans or just wanabees? Do you really think our gov is going to let our guys die if they can prevent it? Even if they weren't concerned about the troops they would sure as hell be worried about what the media would say. The media phonied the question to start with and then went looking for other things to add to the fire and you guys are falling for it like a bunch of Dems. Think I will stop hanging out here. What dopes.
This is an education forum....the way this is working out.....
If you're going to start defending Haliburton/Cheney then I must take issue. The reality is that there is this very valid and time-honored concept known as "the appearance of impropriety" - and that among honorable people this is to be avoided at all costs. In the past leaders in industry have resigned or been fired due to the appearance of impropriety.
So, if Haliburton has some necessary services to render in the war the answer is simple - award them the contract simultaneously with Cheney stepping down.
The appearance of impropriety is important in a civilized nation. Here in the US we tolerate it because, basically, we're no longer particularly civilized or honorable.
They are doing that:
See this:
Special Defense Department Briefing on Armored Vehicles ( Text )
But that only gives Level 2 protection....
mini-opus rejected. But certainly Not an uncommon thought by many here of late, including myself. ;-)
(Why can't the moderate pond-scum and their green invertebrate relatives start their own damn forum and quit trying to enlighten the rest of us as to the errors of our ways in believing that conservatism is not a religion but a way of life?)
But if folks like us leave, then the terrorists will have won. :-)
Ernest, To educate and inFoRm,, sounds like a fine motto to me. lol
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