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Fremont Residents: Limit Grizzlies to Parks
Casper Star-Tribune ^
| December 10, 2004
| Brodie Farquhar
Posted on 12/10/2004 11:40:23 AM PST by hardhead
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I went to this meeting - the tension was so thick you could cut it with a butter knife. The room was filled with ranchers who raise America's future steaks and legs of lamb. The general attitude of the biologists was 'it doesn't matter how you feel, its going to happen anyway.'
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posted on
12/10/2004 11:40:24 AM PST
by
hardhead
To: hardhead
"We're here! We're queer! We don't want any more bears!"
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posted on
12/10/2004 11:41:44 AM PST
by
Politicalities
(http://www.politicalities.com)
To: hardhead
But Grizzlies are our friends...
To: hardhead
The general attitude of the biologists was 'it doesn't matter how you feel, its going to happen anyway.
Thats the way they are.
These bureucrats have no respect for their boss.
To: Delphinium
Its funny you should mention that but one of the POd ranchers shouted at the biologist 'who do you work for?' He answered, 'for the Game and Fish Department'. 'Who does the G&F work for?' Answer: The governor. 'Who does the governor work for?' He wouldn't answer that. Bureaucrats find the idea detestable that they work for the people.
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12/10/2004 11:57:29 AM PST
by
hardhead
("Curly, if you say it's a fine morning, I'll shoot you!" - John Wayne, McLintock 1963)
To: hardhead
Bureaucrats find the idea detestable that they work for the people. They forgot that "we the people" supplanted The King...many years ago....
Hopefully the griz find biologists taste like chicken...the real problem isnt how to manage the bears but how to manage the biologists aka government.
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12/10/2004 12:04:16 PM PST
by
joesnuffy
(Moderate Islam Is For Dilettantes)
To: hardhead
Hell, lets go one better and just limit them to zoos. Same goes for all that other pesky "wildlife".
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posted on
12/10/2004 12:18:10 PM PST
by
glorgau
To: hardhead
Is the gov going to put up with this?
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posted on
12/10/2004 12:20:11 PM PST
by
Tribune7
To: Tribune7
I wouldn't bet on it! The state is suing the feds over the wolf re-introduction plan.
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posted on
12/10/2004 12:25:13 PM PST
by
hardhead
("Curly, if you say it's a fine morning, I'll shoot you!" - John Wayne, McLintock 1963)
To: hardhead
It is almost unbelievable, but true but they are trying to do here in Idaho where I live.
It's are land, our water!
It's as if many, especially our legislators have given up.
We have been fighting so long, and they keep coming back with another extreme asault on our state, and private property rights, one after another.
To: farmfriend
To: Politicalities
We're here! We're queer! We don't want any more bears!"
Now that is a great idea!
They might listen to us then.
To: hardhead
Conservationists were in a distinct minority. I think the author meant "environmental extremists". No conservationist would favor releasing grizzly bears in populated areas.
To: Delphinium
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12/10/2004 12:45:00 PM PST
by
Politicalities
(http://www.politicalities.com)
To: hardhead
Hope somebody told the grizzleys that....(to stay in the park)
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12/10/2004 12:51:34 PM PST
by
hosepipe
(This Propaganda has been edited to include not a small amount of Hyperbole..)
To: hosepipe
Hope sombody told the Grizzleys that.. (to stay in the park)
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12/10/2004 12:55:17 PM PST
by
hosepipe
(This Propaganda has been edited to include not a small amount of Hyperbole..)
To: Delphinium
I was in Idaho 8-9 years ago on some work. They had just reintroduced a few wolves into the area.
Someone had shot one of the wolves, hung it on a fence-post by the highway with a sign:
Sheep 1, Wolves 0
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12/10/2004 12:59:01 PM PST
by
geopyg
("And the whiners will eventually move on to bitch about something else." (Donald Rumsfeld))
To: hardhead
Is this near Glacier Natl Park? I was there in October and became interested in grizzly attacks. I read "Night of the Grizzly" which was fascinating in a sick way. We had lecturers on bears and wolves. I think any bear or wolf should be shot if it is on private ranchland and is a threat to livelihoods.
I read the way to tell if a bear is a black bear or a grizzly is to climb up a tree. If it climbs up after you it's a black bear. If it pulls the tree out of the ground it's a grizzly.
To: Citizen Soldier
I haven't read the book, but saw the movie with Clint Walker (remember, 'Cheyenne'). It's an old movie but was very graphic for it's time. This plan is to open up a "four-legged highway" from Yellowstone southward. There was an incident here recently where two hunters were attacked by a juvenile griz, about 800 pounds. The bear was holding one of the hunters down and then went after the other. Fortunately he had a .45 that fit nicely in the bear's mouth and he was able to pull the trigger as the shell exploded upward.
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12/10/2004 1:15:05 PM PST
by
hardhead
("Curly, if you say it's a fine morning, I'll shoot you!" - John Wayne, McLintock 1963)
To: hardhead
I had not read that incident. The book I read had a lot of encounters with grizzleys and the first hand accounts of ones who survived. And then some didn't. It really is an interesting book.
The bear expert who spoke to us talked about this Canada to Yellowstone bear corridor they want to create. They need to acquire the land to do it. Hmm.... I wonder where it will come from? /sarcasm>
After we left Glacier we drove up into the Canadian Rockies and passed under one of the useless multimillion dollar bear crossing overpasses over the TransCan Hwy. They can't even get the wolves to cross over on them, much less the bears. They really aren't that wide and cannot hide the traffic noise, i.e. trucks.
Do you have a can of Counter Assault? The bear experts at Glacier HIGHLY recommend it as the best bear repellent spray but I read about a guy in Glacier who decided to be smart and rub himself down in it before he went to bed and the bear who ate him during the night probably thought, "Yummy, seasoned meat". They also said those bells hikers wear are dinner bells for bears.
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