Posted on 12/09/2004 2:07:54 PM PST by dandelion
This can't be true, Lawrence Kudlow said so.
interesting. thanks for the post
but it's so blatantly not true, that it's a disgrace.
And even if we didn't have any steel in America, I'm sure we're smart enough to know where to buy it.
This is a total result of deindustrialization. Absolutely. Our founding fathers knew these perils.
Can't we just buy more steel for armor from China?
/ sarcasm
In the 70s some union contracts obligated the company to pay for eyeglasses for worker's kids. That's abusive...
Yep, Liberals gut defense budgets and hurt our national security while republicans gut our business infrastructure to hurt our economic and security interests. One's as bad as the other.
Actually, I don't think socialism was a high priority for President Clinton at all, though it was for his wife. I think Bill was really more interested in the 'perks' of office than in the powers and responsibilities thereof.
Theres an ex Republican rep on Scarborough right now who claims his firm which creates 65% of body armor(ceramic) and HUMVEE armor is not working at capacity and that they could easily increase capacity by 20% w/o increasing production.
The ex rep was Matt Salmon from AZ.
http://www.armorworks.com/
They make the HMMWV Ballistic Advantage Kit, armor for the FAV ,FMTV ,M915, and body armor including Small Arms Protective Inserts (SAPI) and other systems including; Airsave, Vehicle Body Armor Support System (VBASS), and NIJ level IV systems.
Our founding fathers were truly wise to perceive the perils of deindustrialization decades before the Industrial Revolution began.
Wow, the vast majority? Over 50%? I don't suppose there's any solid data showing this stat?
Yeah, I agree. Bill was more interested in riding around on Air Force 1 and having a good time in the "back office." Hillary is the one who really wants socialized health care, women in combat, and strict regulation of political speech on the internet (God forbid.)
Good Lord, what happened in here while I was gone? I go to a junior high orchestra concert, and things were civil (if a little heated) in here.
I come back and find this thread has swelled to three times it's previous size, with the corpses of three deleted posts littering the battlefield.
I dunno what happened here, but it must have been fun. I'm sorry I missed it...
Thanks for the ping!
According to Page 7 of the USGS document "Iron and Steel Statistics" the number of U.S. imports for steel in the year 2002 stood at about 30%, give or take a few percentage points. Check me please, I'm no mathematician.
However, according to the trade doc "Paradise regained for scrap prices"U.S. imports rose by almost 20% in 2004 - despite an increase of U.S. steel production of 3.2% - due to a increase in demand of 12%. This is borne out by the simultaneous increase of Chinese exports by 20%, which could be construed as being produced to fill the American demand gap. The forecast, according to this trade publication, is for imports to rise dramatically - equal or greater to the percentage of this year's increases - in the immediate future.
Now, here's where my head swims. I'll admit that I'm no mathematician, but I see their numbers and it tells me this year we'll see imports rise above 50% for foreign steel. I could be wrong.
Since you appear to know more about this than I do, how about you crunch these numbers for me and I'll change the statement if your hypothesis is born out. I'm no Dan Rather, and I don't have to worry about "fixing" a printed error or begging my editor; I'm just a Blogger, and I just fix it.
How about it? Do you have the statistics for imports on armor grade steel? Do you have anything to back up your statement that this article is "blatantly false"? If you do, spit it out - if not, go find some documents to bear out your allegations, or else renounce them. I've based this article on documents and statements from the congressional record, but if you've got something real I'm ready to hear it...
If you don't have the statistics, then perhaps you should let me know on this thread.
According to Page 7 of the USGS document "Iron and Steel Statistics" the number of U.S. imports for steel in the year 2002 stood at about 30%, give or take a few percentage points. Check me please, I'm no mathematician.
However, according to the trade doc "Paradise regained for scrap prices"U.S. imports rose by almost 20% in 2004 - despite an increase of U.S. steel production of 3.2% - due to a increase in demand of 12%. This is borne out by the simultaneous increase of Chinese exports by 20%, which could be construed as being produced to fill the American demand gap. The forecast, according to this trade publication, is for imports to rise dramatically - equal or greater to the percentage of this year's increases - in the immediate future.
Now, here's where my head swims. I'll admit that I'm no mathematician, but I see their numbers and it tells me this year we'll see imports rise above 50% for foreign steel. I could be wrong.
Since you appear to know more about this than I do, how about you crunch these numbers for me and I'll change the statement if your hypothesis is born out. I'm no Dan Rather, and I don't have to worry about "fixing" a printed error or begging my editor; I'm just a Blogger, and I just fix it.
How about it? Do you have the statistics for imports on armor grade steel? Do you have anything to back up your statement that this article is "blatantly false"? If you do, spit it out - if not, go find some documents to bear out your allegations, or else renounce them. I've based this article on documents and statements from the congressional record, but if you've got something real I'm ready to hear it...
If you don't have the statistics, then perhaps you should let me know on this thread.
Yes, we had a minor dust-up while you were gone, but nothing really unusual for FR.
This level of intensity regarding responses to this story really surprised me. I'm amazed; this was just a story about how the Old Media is manufacturing more than the steel industry, and I really expected the Media hawks to swoop in. Instead, the steel guys and industry people got into a fistfight!
Doggone it - missed it again. Nobody was banned permanently I hope...
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