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Democrats look for message, messenger to win back power and influence policy
Kansas City .com ^ | 12/08/04 | STEVEN THOMMA

Posted on 12/08/2004 6:49:32 PM PST by Libloather

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"We're a pro-choice party. We're a civil rights party. We're proud of that. That's not going to change," said Mark Brewer...

Embrace abortion, Hollywood, the impeached *Crintons and the race bating Jesse Jackson. It won't matter who the messenger is - the message spells loser every time...

1 posted on 12/08/2004 6:49:33 PM PST by Libloather
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To: Libloather

Pick Howard Dean, please.


2 posted on 12/08/2004 6:50:16 PM PST by NeoCaveman (Harry Reid is an embarrasment to the Senate)
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To: Libloather

Lose the Blame America Liberals.

Lose the DNC Chairman.


3 posted on 12/08/2004 6:51:07 PM PST by JustAnotherOkie
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To: Libloather

'"Who is chair won't make much difference," said Rep. Brad Carson, D-Okla.'
Very true, also very obvious. No matter whose derriere is filling the chair, the chair is always filled by a derriere.


4 posted on 12/08/2004 6:52:09 PM PST by GSlob
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To: Libloather

Just wait until Marse Hillary runs...


5 posted on 12/08/2004 6:52:34 PM PST by xJones
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To: Libloather

One of the interesting problems is that the Republican party believes so many different, and in some cases contradictory, things, that there is nothing sensible left for the Democrats to take up.

People would laugh if they said they would cut budgets, even thought Bush is spending heavily.


6 posted on 12/08/2004 6:53:27 PM PST by proxy_user
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To: Libloather
"We're a pro-choice party. We're a civil rights party. We're proud of that. That's not going to change,"

That's the way to go!!

Never change your ideology just because the American people don't like it.

Stick to what you know best: Gay marriage, racial divides, redistribution of income, higher taxes, class warfare, pitting group against group, etc, etc.

You're too proud to change!!

7 posted on 12/08/2004 6:55:33 PM PST by Noachian (A Democrat, by definition, is a Socialist.)
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To: Libloather

Howard Dean should chair the DNC. He would be like Captain Howdy sailing the Titanic.


8 posted on 12/08/2004 7:02:47 PM PST by .cnI redruM (Please Nominate This man! - Rich Lowry on Howard Dean)
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"It's not that Mark Warner wasn't pro-choice, he was. He just didn't want to talk about it."

So, your guy hid his true beliefs from the public to win power. Well, that'll work, but it will only work once.


9 posted on 12/08/2004 7:03:48 PM PST by jocon307 (Jihad is world wide. Jihad is serious business. We ignore global jihad at our peril.)
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Steve Jarding, who ran Democrat Mark Warner's successful 2001 gubernatorial campaign in Virginia, noted Warner's success in stifling some of his party's stands as he courted conservative rural voters, a target considered key to future national prospects.


"He maintained distance from the polarizing issues our base wanted us to talk about," Jarding said. "It's not that Mark Warner wasn't pro-choice, he was. He just didn't want to talk about it."


What should Democrats talk about?

Everybody knows what demoncrapts stand for, even if they don't talk about it. The reason mark warner won is because of all the dumb-arse liberals moving into Northern Virginia, but the real Virginians from the rest of the state need to step up and vote, they did in the Presidential election. Get rid of MARK! Vote for the real Warner.


10 posted on 12/08/2004 7:13:06 PM PST by Ethyl (when)
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To: Libloather

Yep. They've got it all lined up! Now all they need is a message, and a messenger, and they'll be on their way!


11 posted on 12/08/2004 7:57:38 PM PST by rogue yam
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To: .cnI redruM

It will be slimy Harold Ickes, the Klinton Kandidate.


12 posted on 12/08/2004 8:07:59 PM PST by expatpat
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To: Libloather

The Dimms have moved so far to the left they have gone over the edge of the cliff. Their finger nail hold on credibility with the American people who hold True Values has slipped away. They cannot hide their Socialist Agenda.

The actions of the Democratic Party in defense of Bill Clinton during the Lewinsky affair had been tolerated by the American People and we were forced to accept the President's inappropriate behavior, his lying to the American People, and finally his Perjury. All this while Prominante Democrats were placed in the Emabarrising Position of defending him. Clinton continued with the Pardoning of felons that no one with any competancey would have considered pardoning. Bill Clinton was NOT GOOD for the Democratic Party.

Their Claims of voter fraud in the 2004 election has fallen on deaf ears because of their lack of Principles as seen in the 2000 Florida Vote Fiasco. They blamed the Republicans for trying to steal the 2000, election when anyone with common sense could see that it was the Democrats themselves who were trying to steal the election.

From that point on, the actions of the Democratic Party, and the Clinton Administration were horrendous and extremly embarrising to the American People as a whole.

Everyone knew their Modis Operandi and how they would attack and act. They did not leave us down. They are still crying foul in Ohio, with watery complaints that it was to hot in the polling places and this disenfranchised voters.
If it is to hot to vote, wait till the next rounds of elections, when they feel the bitterness from being out in the cold.

The Values that the American People have been ingrained with from Generation to Generation are being attacked by the Democrats. The Democrats have decided to side with the Homosexuals and the Anti God faction. Unfortunately the American people have had the scales removed from their eyes by the deaths of Three Thousand of their fellow Citizens and foreign workers who died in the Terrosit Attacks of the World Trade Center on 9/11. These dastardly attacks described by their recent offering for President, Senator John Kerry, himself a person of questionable Patriotism, described the attack on the WTC and Terrorist Attacks in General as a Nusiance.

They have changed their label to Liberal and now to Progressive. The label may change by the Marxist Socialist agenda and the destruction of the Constitutional Republic of the United States is still their goal, and this is the same old slop that is still in the can.

It will be interesting to see how they TRY to Sell this to a people who have been warned of their intentions.


13 posted on 12/08/2004 8:19:34 PM PST by 26lemoncharlie (Defending America)
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Pick Howard Dean, please.

It is our patriotic duty as conservatives to get the word out that we are terrified that the RATs will pick Dean. Let on that we believe that under Dean's sterling leadership the RATs will crush the PUBs in 2006 and sweep to White House victory in 2008.

If we can all do that with a straight face, they may actually choose "How-Wierd" Dean, providing us with much needed comic relief and more Keystone Kops campaigns for the next few years.
14 posted on 12/08/2004 8:31:54 PM PST by JayNorth
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To: Libloather

How about Jimmah Carter?


15 posted on 12/08/2004 8:48:36 PM PST by conshack
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To: Libloather

Look democrats look.
See them run.
Run run run.


16 posted on 12/08/2004 9:51:05 PM PST by PGalt
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"We're a pro-choice party. We're a civil rights party. We're proud of that. That's not going to change," said Mark Brewer, the state chairman in Michigan and chair of the Association of State Democratic Chairs, which is hosting the Friday-Saturday meeting in Lake Buena Vista, Fla.

From asinine comments such as these, it is obvious that they don't even understand the truth, much less preach it.
17 posted on 12/08/2004 9:56:13 PM PST by Frumious Bandersnatch
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Suuuuuuuuuuuure. Let's have more abortion on demand and more race poverty pimping. That'll win over the folks in Flyover Country. I'm glad to see the Democrats do get it! <grin


18 posted on 12/08/2004 10:01:37 PM PST by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives On In My Heart Forever)
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To: Libloather

THE LIBERAL CREDO

1. Capitalism creates oppression; government creates opportunity.

2. Traditional gender roles are artificial but feminism and homosexuality are government-protected lifestyles.

3. Self-esteem is paramount; government must undertake to
guarantee each citizen-victim self-esteem no matter the cost.

4. The ACLU is good, because destroying religion and silencing believers are protected by the Constitution and the First Amendment; The NRA is bad because it defends the Constitution.

5. Standardized IQ tests are racist; racial quotas and affirmative action are not. Conservatives are racists; everybody knows that Black people can't make it on their own without big-buck government assistance programs and
Hollyweirdos to proselytize the message 24/7.

6. Abortion is a natural right. The Founders just forgot to put it in the Constitution.

7. Normal sex is perverted. Threesomes, bestiality, necrophilia, homosexuality are just new ways to get a thrill.

8. Moral indignation is a liberal's standard strategy for endowing our output with superiority.

9. Victimization is our basic belief by which we blame and find others responsible for our own personal failures, then expect taxpayers, deep-pocketed individuals, or the courts to bail us out. It feels good to be in the throes of "victimization" and either A) causing victims, B) concocting victims, C) playing victim, D) commiserating over victims, or E) creating another class of victims to bleed over.


10. It's a liberal's duty to treat Middle America in the manner of raising mushrooms, that is to say, keep them in the dark and feed them lots of horse manure (Democrats' specialty).


19 posted on 12/08/2004 10:26:16 PM PST by Liz
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To: Libloather; Liz; goldstategop; Frumious Bandersnatch; PGalt; conshack; JayNorth; 26lemoncharlie; ...

"We're seen as the party of contrivance," Democratic pollster Harrison Hickman said...

The Party of Contrivance. We have our slogan, ladies and gentlemen.

20 posted on 12/08/2004 10:40:19 PM PST by sinanju
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