Finally - a breakthrough for oil?

heise.de ^ | December 6, 2004 | Craig Morris

[Rockingham]

Garbage is one of the feed stocks they want to investigate. There are technical issues because of the variability of garbage, so it seems to be a less attractive as an early application. Dealing with stupid and often corrupt municipalities is also a drawback.

[Rockingham]

I remember seeing the Chrysler turbine car at the 1963 World's Fair. It was surprisingly quiet, had a ordinary looking body, and came in one color: a wretched medium brown.

[hgro]

This pipe dream is in the same category as coop ethanol plants. It is likely that it takes more energy to produce the end product than the product contains.

You could get more energy by burning the raw material in a boiler to produce steam to run a turbine.

These schemes benefit the promoter, not the investor.

[Rockingham]

No, this is real, and there have been two articles on it in Discover magazine. None of the experts they consulted saw any scientific obstacles. The investors are smart money in for the long haul, like ConAgra and the Buffet family.

[Rockingham]

The oil is currently used for fuel, but it can be refined or blended for other purposes such as lubrication. The oil is chemically identical to petroleum and is not biofuel except in the sense that it uses biological feed stocks.

[taxesareforever]

The Sierra Club and other environmental wacko organizations will come out against this.

How about PETA? They will say that the turkeys are getting no respect.

[sandviper]

One of my links was no good this one is better. A friend who is convinced that it just a matter of time before we get cut off makes his own. He presently gets more oil then he can began to process from fast food outfits and runs his pick-ups pretty much free or so he says.

http://http://www.biodieselsolutions.com/home/home.asp

[kevkrom]

It is likely that it takes more energy to produce the end product than the product contains. You could get more energy by burning the raw material in a boiler to produce steam to run a turbine. These schemes benefit the promoter, not the investor.

Well, that was reasoned scientific insight that is much more credible than the independent scientists who have reviewed the process and found it credible and efficient.

[sandviper]

http://www.biodieselsolutions.com/home/home.asp

[JohnG45]

"Not poo guys..... its the guts, head, feet , in other words the stuff we don't eat."

That's what you think!

I have reassembled a whole turkey from parts I have recovered in ground turkey (available in most supermarkets).

[beef]

Environmental groups only support energy technologies that they believe are unworkable. Their real agenda is to roll back the industrial revolution. One only has to look at wind energy. They were all for it when they thought nobody could do it. As soon as windmills started going up, they had to find a reason to be against them. That's when windmills became "Cuisinarts for migratory birds".

[the invisib1e hand]

PETA will want their pound of flesh. [g]

[the invisib1e hand]

PETA will want their pound of flesh. [g]

[johnb838]

(junk scince)

[Centurion2000]

BUMP

[sandviper]

If I don't see the whole bird it must be dog food.

[Ramcat]

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Thanks

[marron]

I can see cities building refineries on-site at their sewage treatment plants,

As an aside, sewage plants already use methane extracted from the sewage to drive generators. Our little town does, generating enough electricity to mainly run the plant, but other cities generate enough to sell back to the grid.

[Petronski]

That's an offal idea.


[rimshot]

[JohnG45]

"If I don't see the whole bird it must be dog food."

Hell, I served the reassembled bird on Thanksgiving and got rave reviews.

I'm presently attempting to reassemble a cow in my garage in a similar manner.