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Sensenbrenner Statement on 9/11 Bill ["woefully incomplete and one I cannot support"]
US Newswire [press release] ^ | Dec 6, 2004 | Jim Sensenbrenner

Posted on 12/06/2004 3:42:13 PM PST by Mike Fieschko

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To: bayourod

Amazing - there's somebody on this thread who isn't thinking with their lizard brain.

Somehow, Senselessbrenner is just *obsessed* with all the drivers' licenses the 9/11 rodents got, and not with the fact that they got into the US in the first place!

Does anyone even *know* if Clinton's sabotage of the immigration system which allowed the 9/11 gang into the US, has even been repaired by the Bush Administration? Did he *even* get rid of that idiot woman who was running the "instant visa" operation in Saudi Arabia, that let the scum in here?

Naah... Not important. Instead, let's just fingerprint everyone in the country, Americans whose families have been here for 100 generations included, and register us all like cattle and keep on letting the scum in here. I mean, if you've got nothing to hide, you've got nothing to fear, right? I mean, like, it's just a little inconvenience, and it's For The Common Good, right?

64 drivers licenses... 64 drivers licenses... 64 drivers licenses... Baa-aaa-aa-aaa... Baaaa-aaa-aaaa... 64 drivers licenses... Baa-aaa-aa-aaa... Baa-aaa-aa-aaa...


61 posted on 12/06/2004 8:21:46 PM PST by fire_eye (Socialism is the opiate of academia.)
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To: Pastnowfuturealpha; drt1
I believe that Frist will push for the elimination of the filibuster completely or perhaps go for the 60 57 54 51 system where eventually only 51 votes including the VP is needed to overcome a filibuster. The Senate can make it's own rules and should. At one time the House could filibuster as well this was done away with eons ago. The time is right to do away with it in the Senate as well. Not just for Judges but for all bills. It is time for the majority to once again rule except for those few things the Constitution requires more than half on.
62 posted on 12/06/2004 8:40:20 PM PST by ImphClinton (Four More Years Go Bush)
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To: bayourod

This is important for a whole variety of reasons, not just as a reaction to the 9/11 incident and its factual circumstances. There are dozens of reasons that illegals should not be allowed to have those licenses - buying items that can be used against the population, obtaining other licenses for various uses...This is a bery impoirtant security issue...if ID cards and licenses were not important, why do secured facilities require picture ID to enter various facilities?


63 posted on 12/06/2004 9:04:38 PM PST by LachlanMinnesota
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To: fire_eye

To: bayourod
Amazing - there's somebody on this thread who isn't thinking with their lizard brain.

ROFL No, he's thinking with his illegal alien employer brain. He pockets the savings while the rest of us subsidize his workers.


64 posted on 12/06/2004 9:18:32 PM PST by ETERNAL WARMING (He is faithful!)
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To: ETERNAL WARMING

I'm all for life imprisonment (at least) for anyone who's knowingly employing illegal aliens.

Emphasis on the "knowingly", but I'd LOVE seeing their bereaved, tearful, wailing wife and poor sniffling kids accompanying them to the door of the penitentiary and saying goodby to them for the last time. They're *responsible* for me losing my freedoms to the likes of Senselessbrenner.


65 posted on 12/06/2004 9:27:58 PM PST by fire_eye (Socialism is the opiate of academia.)
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To: Mike Fieschko
I know many of us are disappointed concerning the immigration issues not being in the bill. I would like to put our disappointment into context as it relates to a FREEPER who had a very sick dad who was determined to vote for the President. I don't think the FREEPER would mind me sharing this since it's on a thread for anyone to read. It helps to put everything into context for me at least.


Hi everyone. This is the final post to my prayer request thread for my dad. It began in September and ended with my dad's death about a month later.

To remind everyone, my dad was determined to vote for President Bush during early voting the week before the election, despite being in the last days of his life. We took him by ambulance and he voted inside the ambulance with the help of an election official. The pictures are at post 173.

He went into a coma just hours after that and died a day later. Voting was very literally his last act of this earth.

Many of you mentioned that we should let President Bush know about my Dad's story.

It appears that some of you were busy (and wonderful) freepers. All of you were wonderful to pray for my dad and my family.

Someone ( or many of you ) went a bit further!

My mother has received a letter from President Bush AND a letter from FORMER President Bush!

I haven't seen the letters yet, but my mother says they both talk personally to my mom about my dad. (not form letter stuff)

I'll see the letters at Christmas. I didn't ask her many details about what they said, because I want to read them myself, just as if I opened the letters myself. Does that make sense?

They are a very great comfort to my mom, that's for sure.
The Bush family is just amazing, I think.

I just wanted to tell whoever you are, thank you for taking the time to let the President(s) know.

BTW, we celebrated the re-election pretty hard at our house on November 3rd. I'm sure that Dad was celebrating in heaven with Jesus and the angels!

Love to all!
66 posted on 12/07/2004 5:44:44 AM PST by conservativecorner
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To: Mike Fieschko

The writer is dead on concerning this issue.

Republicans: Losing the Border While Winning the War
Commentary by Patrick Rooney
December 6, 2004


"I am, you know, adamantly against illegal immigrants." – Hillary Clinton



Imagine the scenario: Hillary Clinton, the woman who put the “S” in socialist, outflanks the Republican Party in 2008 on, of all things, immigration and border security reform! Think it’s crazy? If you do you haven’t been listening to Hillary or President Bush lately.



Since 9-11, Hillary has been talking tough on immigration, while the President temporarily stopped talking about his plan to liberalize immigration, until a time when the horrible memory of 9-11 had faded.



Now the President has insulted the same conservative base who’ve just elected him. His base was willing to overlook his lax immigration stance in the interest of getting him elected, but he did not deem it necessary to return the favor. After the election, the President waited all of one week to diss his conservative supporters by spending his new “political capital” reintroducing his ambiguous and unpopular “guest worker” plan.



The President also wants passage of legislation supporting the September 11th commission’s recommendations, without what House Judiciary Chairman James Sensenbrenner (R-Wis.) is holding out for, namely that the bill actually carry out the commission's recommendation on setting national standards for driver's licenses. Word is out that the 9/11 attackers had 63 valid drivers licenses!



House Armed Services Chairman Duncan Hunter (R-Calif.) is also standing up to keep military control over spy satellites.



House Speaker Dennis Hastert has refused to bring up the legislation for a vote.



The White House is not thrilled with Sensenbrenner and Hunter, and the New York Daily News reported that it is encouraging members of the chairmen’s committees to revolt against them.



This hearkens back to the days when Karl Rove is reported to have told immigration control stalwart Congressman Tom Tancredo (R-Co.) to “never darken the door of the White House again.”



Conservatives see the way the President treats open borders advocate President Vicente Fox of Mexico, as contrasted with the disrespect Tom Tancredo receives, and they scratch their heads. Believe me, most of them can relate to Tancredo a lot easier than they can to Fox.



The story of the last election was not the Hispanic vote, though Republicans did very well there. But what won them the election was the overwhelming turnout of conservatives—the same conservatives who now want their borders enforced.



President Bush is a good man who is doing a fine job in the war on terror. But is that enough?



The war is critical—but it can become meaningless without proper border enforcement. And allowing terrorists free travel around our nation via legally-obtained drivers licenses is not border enforcement.



So will Hillary’s morph into Pat Buchanan actually get any traction among conservative voters? According to NewsMax.com, one diehard Bush supporter, who says he can't stand the Clintons, said, "If she ran on a platform of promising to do something about illegal immigration, hell, even I'd vote for her."



There is a strong layer of anger, particularly in the border states, on the subject of immigration. Those at “ground zero” have seen the enormous damage unrestricted immigration has done to the culture, schools, hospitals, crime, and more. And that was before 9-11.



Sealing the borders was a no-brainer after September 11th—or so we thought. The rub to Hillary Clinton’s tough-on-immigration rhetoric is that it will play, at least partially, to a white-hot populace tired of the Republican Party’s cave in to big business on immigration. Of course those same angry people will forget the Democratic Party’s vastly inferior record on border security, but the cold reality is that those in power get the blame.



George Herbert Walker Bush was run out of town after his “read my lips, no new taxes” flip flop. Many voters forgot that he was only caving in to the bait of Democrats, who were overjoyed at the prospect of Americans paying higher taxes.



But if God forbid, America suffers another 9-11 or worse, the party in power will understandably be blamed.



It will not be able to claim ignorance next time. And those votes purchased at the devil’s garage sale won’t seem to be quite as important, will they?


67 posted on 12/07/2004 7:38:02 AM PST by conservativecorner
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To: Sterco

Bush has betrayed the people who voted for him. In 2008 we have to make this an issue that will divide the party regardless of the consequence. Either we protect our borders or we allow lawlessness to reign. Bush could care less he is and always has been insulated from the plight of the common working man.


68 posted on 12/07/2004 11:45:28 AM PST by sasafras (sasafras (The road to hell is paved with good intentions))
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To: sasafras

I have heard myself from illegals the statement "you took the Southwest from us, now we will take it back one illegal at a time". I now fear that what they say is true. Does that make this a "US Government Sanctioned Invasion". There is some truth here that does not manifest itself openly. I as a US citizen want to know what it is.


69 posted on 12/07/2004 12:21:07 PM PST by Sterco
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