Posted on 12/03/2004 6:20:08 PM PST by ionian
Here we go. Once Turkey gets the jitters and starts behaving like every other Muslim country, Europe is finished. They're starting to seem awefully paranoid.
Admission to the EU will be Europe's first major post-van Gogh test. If the Europeans are able to reject Turkey, then their battle preparations will be much easier.
The general populace in Turkey does seem to be turning towards the Middle East and Islam at a time when the government itself is striving towards EU membership. The EU will take a wait and see approach towards Turkey I do believe.
turkeys "tolerance" is only for the Wests consumption. They have closed Christian radio stations and Churches calling them "an offense to society".
Agreed - Europe is fast waking up. I think they'll be smart enough to send Turkey back to their brothers in the Middle East.
"But the dispute has flared at precisely the wrong time for Turkey — ahead of a Dec. 17 summit that will decide whether to begin membership negotiations for its entry into the EU."
Which, I hope, was precisely why the invitation went out the way it did. Pay back's a... well you know!
According to the muslim philosophy
Christians and Jews in a muslim country have no rights and are to be banned, bannished, subjigated, kidnapped, tortured and murdered. Practice of these religions is to be forbidden.
muslims in any, principally, Christian country demand the right to practice their religion, in any manner, including the murder of those who point out the falacy of the muslim religion. Practice of the Christian and Jewish faith are to be denoucnced and claims of religious bigotry soon follow. Efforts to remove any reference to Christianity or the Jewish faith are constant; often with the aid of atheist and false religious leaders. Once the religion of the founders of the nations has been eliminated, the fast growing population of muslims will then seek to establish the muslim faith as the only acceptable faith. Thank you, anti Christian lawyers union, you are doing the ground work for the muslim terrorists.
To a small degree, even parts of secular europe are beginning to awaken to the terror tactics of muslims. Hopefully, more Americans will wake up to these tactics and fight the efforts of the anti Christian lawyers union and it's efforts to destroy the Christian religion.
I'm beginning to think that Europe has turned the corner and they now understand what's in store for them.
I also think that historians will look at Theo van Gogh's murder as the spark that woke up Europe. The Muslims overplayed their hand, and they lost.
Finally, if I were a Muslim in Europe, I'd have an Air France one-way ticket to Algeirs tucked away in my drawer. It will be needed.
True - but the history of Democracies, as a whole, is somewhat promising. The way I see it, a functioning democratic country is like a large Italian family. If you (an outsider) go there, all you'll see are people arguing and screaming at each other. You'd think that the family was about to collapse. So you take a side in an arguement, and all of a sudden the family gets together and they all look at you - and they all start yelling at you, even the person who's side you took. That's what deceptive about Democracies - they seem disfunctional, until they meet a common enemy. In Europe that enemy has been met, and the Muslims are now being stared down by a giant Italian family.
*rolling eyes* Not this garbage again. Are we planning to give the Southwest back to Mexico, too? The American usurpers conquered it only a little over 150 years ago.
Agreed - the Europeans should be much more worried about holding Paris and their other cities, than marching into Constantinople. Let the Turks have that dust heap.
The Megali Idea died in the flames of Smyrna in 1922. It should stay dead. But it would be nice to attend the Liturgy in Agia Sophia again.
It makes about as much sense as the Islamic nuts wanting to take Spain back.
How did you get that impression living in the US?
It would be to Turkey's advantage to strengthen the Patriarchiate in Istanbul as it would weaken the Russian Patriachate and allow Turkey (and the US) to exert more influence into Russia. However, this may backfire, with the Patriarchiate claiming certain parts of Istanbul to turn into a new Vatican state. This is not so bad, and currently against the Orthodox Christian dogma, but when issues agreed upon in the Treaty of Lausanne are put into question today, there's no knowing how and by whom lineancy on such an important international agreement could be exploited by.
That is why the US is so deeply concerned about what Bartholomeos II should be called.
If all of Greece decided to move into Istanbul, they would still make less than 50% of the population. How do you plan on taking it 'back'? Whatever that means? Get over it. The continent of America hadn't even been discovered when the Turks conquered Istanbul. Besides, if you want the splendour of Istanbul back, you should go to the Vatican which has been holding on to most of its riches since 1299.
BTTT
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