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Hamas: We accept Israel living in peace and security
Haaretz ^ | 03/12/2004

Posted on 12/03/2004 9:19:11 AM PST by IAF ThunderPilot

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To: IAF ThunderPilot
Hamas: We accept Israel living in peace and security

Israel: We will accept Hamas securely resting in peace.

202 posted on 12/06/2004 5:01:04 AM PST by American in Israel (A wise man's heart directs him to the right, but the foolish mans heart directs him toward the left.)
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To: Lutonian
Like the Egyptians called a truce when Israel gave them the Sinai desert, but continued to use NAZI propaganda in school textbooks.

When Israel asked Egypt to block the weapons smuggling tunnels coming into Israel Egypt said they could find none. So Israel blew up the tunnels on Israels end. The smoke came out of Egyptian police stations and Military camps.

This is Muslim Peace.

203 posted on 12/06/2004 5:03:12 AM PST by American in Israel (A wise man's heart directs him to the right, but the foolish mans heart directs him toward the left.)
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To: IAF ThunderPilot
Hamas: We accept Israel living in peace and security......

Until we figure out a way to escape your missles.

204 posted on 12/06/2004 5:04:40 AM PST by HamiltonJay ("You cannot strengthen the weak by weakening the strong.")
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To: IAF ThunderPilot

Mecca and Medina will continue to pour out the spritual 'go juice' and Saudi Arabia will continue to keep up terror world wide and will support HAMAS in the Middle East and their front groups and lobby groups like CAIR in the U.S.

We all need to be watching Iran Russia and China

imo


205 posted on 12/06/2004 5:18:01 AM PST by joesnuffy (Moderate Islam Is For Dilettantes)
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To: fanfan

"Feh" is a wonderful old Yiddish expression of disdain or disgust I discovered in Leo Rosten's "The Joys of Yiddish", which Jewish friends of mine turned me on to when I was in college many years ago.


206 posted on 12/06/2004 7:27:48 AM PST by Convert from ECUSA (tired of shucking and jiving)
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To: maine-iac7

Well, you're probably reading more into my statement than I intended. The only real point was that people who fight for their land and lose don't retain the privelege of claiming it as their own.


207 posted on 12/06/2004 10:06:25 AM PST by Veritas et equitas ad Votum (If the Constitution "lives and breathes", it dies.)
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To: hiredhand

My comments to your post, which I liked:

"I understand that people want peace. We all want peace so much, but NOT a false, or temporary peace! THIS is what we'll ALL have if we bargain with Islamic extremists every time they cry for a ceasefire, or "hudna". They are predictable and do this often. When they start losing, they cry for negotiations, or a ceasefire....maybe call to the U.N. They need to be scrubbed from the surface of this fine planet we live on."

That indeed is their strategy and making and breaking truces are taught in the Koran as a legitimate tactic in defeating your enemies. Note that Jesus Christ said to pray for your enemies. Big difference in Muhahmed and Christ of the message behind what each was trying to convey. My personal belief is that Jesus Christ is the Son of God.

"Israel has suffered at the hands of Arab terrorism for a long time, and they've suffered grievously. I only hope that those in power do NOT bargain in any way, shape, or form with Hamas."

It is this suffering which drives such a desire for peace, however Israel refuses to understand that Islam intends for the destruction of Isreal nor will they come to this conclusion on their own but through their invasion and pain after such as truce is made. That and the bible says they recognize Jesus Christ as their savior. That has not happened yet...

"After the U.S. Presidential elections the first week of November, I "think" our soldiers were FINALLY turned lose to BREAK the enemy's will to fight! To wage war like this is truly a terrible thing. Violent and evil men require rough treatment. To break their will requires that we be more violent than them."

War is not nice and we have a right to defend ourselves. However, I am reminded of a scripture in Psalms that talks about how a city may have a watchkeeper and high walls but it means nothing if the Lord is not walking with them. America is a place that is quickly becoming secular taking God out of our entire country. This is not good. Think about it, 19 terrorists managed to disrupt our entire way of life in our country with less then a a few million dollars. We need the Lord and a cry to repentance in our country, not bigger or better bombs.

"Some day, I would like to meet an 80 year old Arab terrorist who had his will to fight BROKEN when he was 18, and who still trembled at the mention of Israeli, or American soldiers! THIS is how badly they need to be broken. "

We'll indeed see this, like the defeated Japanese of old, but it will be a long time before this enemy goes away.

"...strange thing....I was reading from the book of Daniel last night, and at one time King Darius ordered his ENTIRE kingdom to worship the God of Daniel! His kingdom at that time would have covered most of (if not ALL of) present day Iraq!"

That is indeed interesting. I had forgotten that!!! I would wager that Darius kingdom flourished.


208 posted on 12/06/2004 11:00:34 AM PST by quant5
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To: Earthdweller

"This would imply that they feel they have been weakened..uhumm..wonder who did that?"

Yes, we know who did that, the United States and Isreal. However, our democratic yearning for "peace" at any cost and pressure from the Euroweenies will not allow us to finish the job and go in and destroy the rest of them.


209 posted on 12/06/2004 11:04:20 AM PST by quant5
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To: quant5
My 14 yr old son and I sit down every evening at 9:00 PM and study the scriptures and seek God. We're reading Daniel now. You have indeed spoken correctly. There WILL be a "deal" made with these terrorists....the temple will be desecrated...and the nation of Israel will be at a low point when they realize who Jesus really is.

Oh how we long for peace! But I know that terrible things must transpire before we have the desires of our hearts...at least with respect to peace.

May the Lord of Hosts have mercy on us. I think we're going to need it.
210 posted on 12/06/2004 11:08:06 AM PST by hiredhand ( "Pudge the Indestructible Kitty" lives at - http://www.justonemorefarm.com)
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To: hiredhand

I have the gift of prophecy and have had it for a few years now. One thing I can definitely tell you is that if you have a personal relationship with Jesus Christ and your heart is genuine then you have nothing to worry about.

The scriptures tell us that we will be persecuted for a while in the end-times, like the Christians of old in Roman times. Endurance will be necessary. But I am no longer afraid, because I look for the promises of God which are good. Judgement on this earth and the next life is for those who refuse to recognize God and obey His commandments which are also to our benefit now.

I am on a really interesting prophecy list at www.prophecy.org if your interested. I met the prophet behind the site and he is genuine. It is worth checking out.

My Christ guide your steps my brother or sister. Lean on the Rock and you never can go wrong.

"My 14 yr old son and I sit down every evening at 9:00 PM and study the scriptures and seek God. We're reading Daniel now. You have indeed spoken correctly. There WILL be a "deal" made with these terrorists....the temple will be desecrated...and the nation of Israel will be at a low point when they realize who Jesus really is.

Oh how we long for peace! But I know that terrible things must transpire before we have the desires of our hearts...at least with respect to peace.

May the Lord of Hosts have mercy on us. I think we're going to need it."


211 posted on 12/06/2004 3:43:05 PM PST by quant5
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To: IAF ThunderPilot
An Israel Defense Forces soldier was killed in a pre- dawn attack today, in a bomb blast set off by Palestinians northwest of the Karni Crossing in the central Gaza Strip.
Four other soldiers were wounded in an ensuing gunbattle as they moved to extricate their comrade. The wounded soldiers were evacuated to Soroka Medical Center in Be'er Sheva.

Hamas claimed responsibility for the attack, saying it had planted roadside bombs and land mines in the coop and detonated them as the soldiers approached.

Note the date of this action, this is less than a week later. Muslims have NO honor, their word is shi'ite.

212 posted on 12/07/2004 8:41:39 AM PST by American in Israel (A wise man's heart directs him to the right, but the foolish mans heart directs him toward the left.)
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To: Spok
Maybe someday they'll mean it.

A truce is not a peace treaty, its a temporary thing.

Its no secret they have demographics on their side. Highest fecundity in the world is in the Gaza Strip; avg family has 9 children! Yhey feel time is on their side, every thing else is just an expediency.

213 posted on 12/07/2004 10:29:17 AM PST by Nonstatist
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To: American in Israel
The third ruler will spring from Arafat's government, but not from Arafat's bloodlines, He will be the dragon, or flying serpent.

You are referring to Mabus, I presume, of Nostradamus and Bible Code infamy. Some say Mahmoud Abbas = M. Abbas = Mabus. Interesting...

214 posted on 12/08/2004 11:23:06 AM PST by ravingnutter
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To: ravingnutter

That is strange. Thanks!


215 posted on 12/08/2004 12:44:29 PM PST by American in Israel (A wise man's heart directs him to the right, but the foolish mans heart directs him toward the left.)
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To: ravingnutter
A horrible undoing of people and animals, At once one will see vengeance,

This from that quantrain. I would think the parallel between the 4th and 5th seals of the book of Revelations is very easy to see.

Rev 6:7 And when it opened the fourth seal, I heard [the voice of] the fourth living creature saying, Come [and see]. Rev 6:8 And I saw: and behold, a pale horse, and he that sat upon it, his name [was] Death, and hades followed with him; and authority was given to him over the fourth of the earth to slay with sword, and with hunger, and with death, and by the beasts of the earth.
Rev 6:9 And when it opened the fifth seal, I saw underneath the altar the souls of them that had been slain for the word of God, and for the testimony which they held;
Rev 6:10 and they cried with a loud voice, saying, How long, O sovereign Ruler, holy and true, dost thou not judge and avenge our blood on them that dwell upon the earth?

Not sure I put much on his stuff, I still have not covered the rich fields of the Tanach in depth. It takes me a long time to get what the Holy Spirit is trying to pound into my thick skull. At this rate I will be long gone from old age before I even get to sift the pages one time thru with understanding.

I don't read Nostrodomus because I do not want to color the pages before I get there. It is hard to follow the trail of the quiet small voice if you know where He is headed before he speaks. I got Daniel to go yet, have not even cracked the Book with Him there. Can't wait, but don't have a choice either. -grin-

You know what a sane man is called in a mad house? A ravingnutter of course.

216 posted on 12/08/2004 1:00:35 PM PST by American in Israel (A wise man's heart directs him to the right, but the foolish mans heart directs him toward the left.)
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To: American in Israel
FWIW...

Quatrain 2.62

Mabus will soon die, then will come

Of people and beasts a horrible destruction:

Then all too suddenly the vengeance is revealed,

A hundred, hand, thirst, hunger, when the comet shall run.

The comet they are referring to is Comet Machholz which is predicted to come closest to Earth on the night of Jan. 5-6, 2005, when it will be just 32 million miles (51 million kilometers) away. So if the prediction is correct, Mabus aka Mahmoud Abbas will be assassinated soon. Interestingly enough, he survived an assassination attempt last month.

217 posted on 12/08/2004 1:26:40 PM PST by ravingnutter
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To: American in Israel
I like to compare Nostradamus' predictions to the Bible and Bible codes...it is just a morbid curiousity, I guess : )

You know what a sane man is called in a mad house? A ravingnutter of course.

Funny you should mention that...the liberals on another forum called me a raving nutter during the Clinton impeachment, so I decided to use it for my nickname on FR. I wear it as a badge of pride.

218 posted on 12/08/2004 1:34:20 PM PST by ravingnutter
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To: ravingnutter

He would need a fatal head wound. My bet is on Clintons bid to take over the UN. That guy makes my stomach turn just to see his mocking face on TV. I find it hard to think anyone would follow a Palestinian anywhere, they tend to put out fires rubbing sticks together. The only ones stupid enough to believe in the Palestinians nowadays is, er, us.

But It is interesting that a flying serpent, the description of the third leader of the modern Falistina, is another way to say dragon.


219 posted on 12/08/2004 1:36:25 PM PST by American in Israel (A wise man's heart directs him to the right, but the foolish mans heart directs him toward the left.)
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To: AdmSmith; AnonymousConservative; Berosus; bigheadfred; Bockscar; cardinal4; ColdOne; ...
Note: this topic is from 12/03/2004. Still funny. Thanks IAF ThunderPilot.

220 posted on 10/26/2013 7:49:11 AM PDT by SunkenCiv (http://www.freerepublic.com/~mestamachine/)
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