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Blacks offer mixed reaction to James' assertions
http://www.charlotte.com/mld/charlotte/news/local/10327111.htm ^

Posted on 12/03/2004 7:08:05 AM PST by Stew Padasso

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1 posted on 12/03/2004 7:08:05 AM PST by Stew Padasso
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Gee, so now truth is racist if it's about blacks. Hmm...


2 posted on 12/03/2004 7:13:03 AM PST by Angry Enough
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"Tell him to trade places with me for a week, and play catch-up on my bills. See how he likes that," she said. "And show me how he can deal with raising a 15-year-old son and a 6-year-old son and juggle jobs and still maintain a house."

Maybe its not an accident he's not in her position? "She chose poorly."
3 posted on 12/03/2004 7:13:15 AM PST by Little Ray (I'm a reactionary, hirsute, gun-owning, knuckle dragging, Christian Neanderthal and proud of it!)
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Local black activist John Minter said James' attack on the black community's morals bothered him the most. "If you look at it from a moral standpoint, take a middle-class woman who gets pregnant and has an abortion. Is she any more moral than a 13-year-old who gets pregnant and has a baby?" he said.

Mr. Minter makes an unanswerable point.

However, abortion is rife in the black community as well.

4 posted on 12/03/2004 7:16:42 AM PST by wideawake (God bless our brave soldiers and their Commander in Chief)
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"It's the racism of neglect, where you ignore an issue and hope it goes away."

Give them free breakfast in their school classrooms. That ought to fix the problems.
5 posted on 12/03/2004 7:18:28 AM PST by Max Combined (Clinton is "the notorious Oval Office onanist ")
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"If you look at it from a moral standpoint, take a middle-class woman who gets pregnant and has an abortion. Is she any more moral than a 13-year-old who gets pregnant and has a baby?"

They are both immoral, but which one is going to cost me more money? Which one is more likely to lead to my house being broken into or my car stereo being stolen?
6 posted on 12/03/2004 7:20:03 AM PST by Max Combined (Clinton is "the notorious Oval Office onanist ")
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Yep, she chose to make them, she chose to keep them. Anyone for choice? There ARE families who will adopt black children and NOT raise them in poverty.


7 posted on 12/03/2004 7:22:00 AM PST by eccentric (aka baldwidow)
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"Kids aren't illegitimate. They just have sperm donors who aren't being their fathers."

And we have tramps who will spread their legs for them, who will then complain fifteen years later that it's not their fault.

(Does she know what 'illegitimate' means?)

8 posted on 12/03/2004 7:24:55 AM PST by atomicpossum (I am the Cat that walks by himself, and all places are alike to me.)
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I hope he sticks by his comments and doesn't bow to the pressure.

Attacking him for saying them only shifts what should be the real debate.

And just where did he use the term "blacks"? Charlotte is a diverse town. Lots of poor folk there. Its inner city is a moral sewer for a lot more people than just blacks.

Good for this guy. Its about time.


9 posted on 12/03/2004 7:27:29 AM PST by Adder (Can we bring back stoning again? Please?)
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"Kids aren't illegitimate. They just have sperm donors who aren't being their fathers."

And they apparently also have sperm receptacles that don't know how to keep their legs together. Illegitimacy is not just the man's fault...

10 posted on 12/03/2004 7:28:02 AM PST by Exeter
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Same thoughts, yours must be faster than mine this early in the morning...


11 posted on 12/03/2004 7:29:15 AM PST by Exeter
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To: atomicpossum

Same thoughts, yours must be faster than mine this early in the morning...


12 posted on 12/03/2004 7:30:16 AM PST by Exeter
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I also stutter.


13 posted on 12/03/2004 7:30:39 AM PST by Exeter
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I think the guy is right and he should not apologize. It is racism to overlook an issue and just pretend it will go away.
And the pastor's comments about the middle class woman that has the abortion versus the young thirteen year that has the baby. Neither is more moral than the other/both have sinned and they both must seek forgiveness through their relationship with God but one is now a burden on society. One is going to ask for the hand out and be just like the angry lady talking about juggling the bills and raising the kids.
This also brought up another aspect of why blacks deny the problems in their neighborhood, they believe that whites have the same issues but are picking on them. They believe that white can pay to get out of trouble, that abortion stats are not correctly reported( which I agree with also), but it still does not take away the fact that there is a problem in theblack community that should be addressed and dealt with.


14 posted on 12/03/2004 7:32:37 AM PST by rave123
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Although I agree with the article, most blacks kids are not adopted. Most americans would rather go to China and rescue a baby than adopt an american black infant. I wish more were adopted (by anybody).


15 posted on 12/03/2004 7:35:35 AM PST by rave123
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I've seen it in Hunter's Point, San Francisco. I've seen it in Oakland, CA. And now I'm seeing it here in NC. The man is right. And this momma screaming that this is no way to talk because she's a single mom -- is NO excuse. She became that by her own choice -- her own moral choice. The other gent is right though -- there's been a bad play at the ways black men are dealing with black women in this "eau so modern day and age". Racism isn't the problem. It's the new age "culture" of black that's the problem. This whole crappy thing with "dissin'" is causing problems for children in interacting with others. "Dissin' is about being a girlie-man and worrying about your "reputation". How much more girlie-man can one get if you get your nose out of joint because someone says something funny? Reacting like a weenie, while pretending to be a MAN, is really, really destructive for communities and children.

And in NC? I see the black urban inner city girls doing the "attitude" thing too. More interested in "attitude" and "not bein dissed" than actually learning to read, write, grow up knowing things.

Where are the GROWN-UPS? Where are the Leaders? The children are hurtin themselves and each other...

16 posted on 12/03/2004 7:39:40 AM PST by Alia
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abortion is rife in the black community as well

The black and other communities of what Margaret Sanger described as "undesirables" have always been the principal targets of the abortion movement. Sanger would have been an enthusiastic participant at the Wannsee Conference which organized the "Final Solution".

17 posted on 12/03/2004 7:41:53 AM PST by katana
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"If you look at it from a moral standpoint, take a middle-class woman who gets pregnant and has an abortion. Is she any more moral than a 13-year-old who gets pregnant and has a baby?" No, she is much LESS moral in my book. And while people love to talk about the black teen pregnancy crisis this point is seldom made. Say what you will about the ghettos of America they are much more supportive of a pregnant 14 year old keeping her baby then the rich part of town. Most of these teen mothers have made mistakes when young but still, despite tough circumstances, choose to do the right thing.
18 posted on 12/03/2004 7:42:04 AM PST by Jack Black
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newborns ARE adopted. older kids aren't.


19 posted on 12/03/2004 7:42:47 AM PST by eccentric (aka baldwidow)
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Say what you will about the ghettos of America they are much more supportive of a pregnant 14 year old keeping her baby then the rich part of town. Most of these teen mothers have made mistakes when young but still, despite tough circumstances, choose to do the right thing.

Absolutely.

The fathers of these children never receive the opprobrium and punishment they deserve for abandoning their kids.

20 posted on 12/03/2004 7:43:46 AM PST by wideawake (God bless our brave soldiers and their Commander in Chief)
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