Posted on 12/03/2004 12:56:37 AM PST by kattracks
I just got Jayna Davis' "Third Terrorist" at the library. A very quick skim shows several eyewitness accounts of McVeigh being seen with mid-Eastern types in the days and weeks before the bombing. The eyewitnesses were almost actively dismissed by the FBI.
Laurie Mylroie has written extensively about Ramsi Yousef's false identities and connections with Saddam.
Davis' and Mylroie's books have been recommended by James Woolsey, who was briefly CIA Director under Clinton (and who was rarely able to get a meeting with the POTUS).
I pray someday the truth comes out and Clinton will have another, among many untold stories told, for history to be able to judge this selfish trader.
I live on LI and know of a witness from a close friend. There's no way he imagined or misunderstood what he saw. It always amazes me, when I know it shouldn't, what they got away with during the Clinton Admin.
Compare the sketch of John Doe #2 who was seen with McVeigh, and a picture of the Hispanic "dirty-bomber" who was arrested in Chicago. They look very, very similar to me, and this guy was connected to al qaeda and iraq.
I would love for all of this information to come to light. I lost a high school classmate on that flight... his name was Patrick Bell. Many in this country don't realize the threat we now face on a daily basis.
That said, a Stinger could not have done it, period.
Second, there is a big difference between a bomb and a missile, and there is no evidence whatsoever of bomb-type damage. They reconstructed 90+% of the airplane, and what they reconstructed is simply too much for a bomb, especially in the sections in question.
Third, the "red residue" is not evidence of an explosive missile. It is consistent with seat glues and other superheated fabric residues----BUT say for a moment it WAS somehow related to the exhaust of a rocket motor, the only thing you could possibly have was a "pass through" missile or a "kinetic-kill" missile---not an explosive missile. This is a crucial distinction that the Cashills and Sanders types obscure.
No terrorist, EVER, has EVER used a "pass through" device as an anti-aircraft weapon: it would not occur to them it they were trying to blow up a plane, because aircraft can survive and even land with holes in them, even fairly large holes. The only way to ensure destruction is through an explosive device.
AQ was working on bombs. Get it? BOMBS, not missiles. There is no record in Lance's book, or Minitier's research, or Posner's research on AQ of them EVER, and I repeat, EVER obtaining a super-high-cost and high-technology "signature-seeking" (note, not HEAT SEAKING because it didn't go for the engines) missile. If you follow what type of weapon "could have" done this, you must rule out terrorists.
That leaves only an accidental/deliberate Navy launch. As DeMille concludes in his (fiction) book, it is simply impossible to keep hundreds, even thousands, of Navy personnel quiet on such an issue if such an accident occurred, and even more so if it was deliberate.
I highly recommend DeMille's book for the thought processes he goes through. He has done his research, even though it's "fiction."
Finally, the "streak of light" could not possibly have been a "particle beam" weapon (which DeMille SEEMS to be leaning to, even though . . . well, I won't give away the plot) because according to some witnesses it "maneuvered." So we are back to a very specific "pass-through" kinetic-energy missile that was NOT heat seeking, which AQ had no record of ever obtaining; which AQ had no history of ever using; which did NOT fit the AQ profile in ANY of their other operations; and which in NO WAY would have provided the warm up for the Bojinka or 9/11 plots.
We have 200+ eyewitnesses. What did they see? Something. I grant you, they weren't all wrong. I doubt it was falling debris. But the reconstructed aircraft doesn't lie: it rules out a bomb; it rules out a Stinger; it rules out any heat-seeker; it rules out any explosive missile. This is a classic case of the forensic evidence being directly contradictory to the eyewitness "evidence."
I take exception with this line. While the murder of 230 people is not insignificant by any means I would contend that the downing of flight 587 over Queens NY which killed 265 people takes second place in this tragic category.
Some are having a love affair with Bill Cosby. He is a democrat. He needs to examine the role of his party. Enough said.
How can he be so passionate about his issues, yet support the party that is responsible. Think about it Bill, you need to expose the failure of the education and wefare system. If he really does care, he should be supporting the voucher system. But he can't do that, after all, it is a Republican idea. I applaud the fact that he is speaking out. Yet, most of his listeners support the very party that should be held responsible.
After an election season of Michael Moore movie hype and its Bush family and Haliburton conspiracies, it is clear that the left has its share of conspiracy tinfoil theorists. But, I believe the Clinton material is far more compelling.
TWA Flt. 800 is one several events from the Clinton years that have never been adequately explained. Vince Foster's death, Ron Brown's, the OKC bombing are several others. There are many here who believe the official explanations for all of those incidents, but I'm not one of them. And as far as Flt 800 is concerned, random chance isn't what caused the crash.
"NightFall" by Nelson Demille was just released in November.
It is based on the TWA 800 crash.
With this book, DeMille may be able to bring July 17,1996 back into play.
Yours was a great post on DeMille's book !
Damn, this article pisses me off.
I worked with someone who was on the investigation and he swears that it was terrorism. But he believes that it was not something they wanted to get out because they were scared it would cause people to quit flying and thus impact the financial sector of the airlines.
I don't recall this sort of info coming out on FrontPageMag before. Usually WorldNetDaily (no disrespect intended) is the source, so I'll give this a bttt.
Ping
I agree and klintoon used his hatred for white americans who disagreed with his radical liberal mindset as scapegoats.(White Militia Groups) McVeigh and Nichol's were involved, but Reno, Freeh and the other klowns kept their code of silence for the klintoon pukes. Justice and truth were obstructed to wag the dog and keep a (POS) in the whitehouse. This was a terrorist victory aided and abetted by klintoon and krew.
>>So much shoddy journalism from the MSM back in the day is reason number one why these conspiracies can live on.
Worth saying again bump.
Let's say I concede to the fact that since AQ had never, ever obtained or used a signature seeking missile, they did not procure their first one for the downing of TWA800. Do you have any idea what Saddam's track record was with respect to this type of missile? I wonder who does have an inventory of signature seekers - could be an entity involved in the Oil for Food fiasco.
Great Point Ginifer. I knew this gentleman who had the same conclusion. Unfortunately the FBI and others in the klintoon(damage control machine) "CBA'd" Covered bill's ass on this terrorist attack. It is very sad to see a potus/federal agencies operating in such a un-american and clandestine manner. Your source was quite accurate in their summation as to terrorism in play.
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Not so incredible considering:
Freedom of the Press
Property Rights
The Rule of Law
I'll bet Marc Rich could connect some of the dots.
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