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Developer builds case to end sprawl
Baltimore Sun ^ | 17 November 2004 | Timothy B. Wheeler

Posted on 12/02/2004 4:30:12 PM PST by Lorianne

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1 posted on 12/02/2004 4:30:13 PM PST by Lorianne
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To: Lorianne
For later.
2 posted on 12/02/2004 4:31:40 PM PST by independentmind
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At stake, contends the silver-haired, Santa Fe, N.M.-based developer, is nothing less than our personal health, and that of the planet.

"Whatdaya mean you're not gonna float anymore bonds, and I gotta build roads, sewers, and fund an expansion to the water treatment plant if I want to build another suburban tract development? Fagitaboudit, I'll build city condos instead."

3 posted on 12/02/2004 4:33:57 PM PST by Yo-Yo
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4 posted on 12/02/2004 4:36:02 PM PST by Libertarianize the GOP (Make all taxes truly voluntary)
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To: Lorianne

I must be the only person in the US who doesn't know how I should live.


5 posted on 12/02/2004 4:36:17 PM PST by decimon
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To: Lorianne; independentmind
It's been said before, but it's always good to remember:

control of "sprawl" = government control

"Blight" = doesn't meet the government's standards of taste



Howdy, IM.
6 posted on 12/02/2004 4:42:21 PM PST by clyde asbury (Right? Right.)
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To: Lorianne

Just another limosine liberal trying to tell us what's good for us.


7 posted on 12/02/2004 4:43:15 PM PST by facedown (Armed in the Heartland)
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To: Lorianne
Ok, how are you going to build suburbs that protect children from predators?

Seems to me that the reason they're not walking, playing, exercising like "we" used to is they're vulnerable to evil that our system of "justice" winks at, or at least does not deal with appropriately.

Nowadays, most good parents watch their kids like hawks. Didn't used to have to be thataway.

8 posted on 12/02/2004 4:47:18 PM PST by 1john2 3and4
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To: Lorianne

If their development effort can clean up downtown Albukirk, I say more power to him.


9 posted on 12/02/2004 5:01:50 PM PST by Betis70 (I'm only Left Wing when I play hockey)
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To: facedown

Look as an experienced government manager many have the wrong view of new urban style development. I believe in the free market an dstudies show that 30-40 percent of people would like to live in newly constructed higher density neighborhoods with good schools and low crime. But guess what - It is illegal in amlost any community to build it becuase of antiquated zoning and development ordinances. In other words the free market cannot work because most local governments will not allow it to.


10 posted on 12/02/2004 5:21:30 PM PST by wewereright
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To: wewereright

I dont like sprawl myself,

but I dont know how they can build something denser and walkable and nice in of all places albequerque.

why not build house with big backyards to play in instead?


11 posted on 12/02/2004 5:52:34 PM PST by atari
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Drexel Hill is a bedroom community of rowhomes, twins and small-lot singles with little in the way of parks and open space.


12 posted on 12/02/2004 7:46:58 PM PST by Tribune7
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To: Owl_Eagle; brityank; Physicist; WhyisaTexasgirlinPA; GOPJ; abner; baseballmom; Willie Green; Mo1; ..

Fellow wants to turn Albuquerque into Drexel Hill.


13 posted on 12/02/2004 7:47:57 PM PST by Tribune7
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why not build house with big backyards to play in instead?

Because these types of houses encourage privacy and private ownership. Condos and town houses with the only open space public space don't encourage private ownership by individuals, and its easier for the government and NGOs to keep an eye on you.
14 posted on 12/02/2004 7:51:35 PM PST by hedgetrimmer
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To: clyde asbury
control of "sprawl" = government control

Sprawl is a product of government zoning, fire, and engineering codes. Prior to the start of government control over development, development took place in a compact manner in traditional towns and suburbs.

Sprawl is a key plank of the Communist Manifesto (it calls for an equalization of the population by moving people out of cities and into rural areas), and was brought into modern life by the French Socialist Le Corbusier.

Now, remind me again why as a redblooded American conservative, I should be for an ideal of Marxist Socialism midwifed into modernity by a French Socialist that is a product of government control over private property?

15 posted on 12/02/2004 7:53:52 PM PST by Hermann the Cherusker
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To: Lorianne; abbi_normal_2; Ace2U; adam_az; Alamo-Girl; Alas; alfons; alphadog; amom; AndreaZingg; ...
Rights, farms, environment ping.
Let me know if you wish to be added or removed from this list.
I don't get offended if you want to be removed.
16 posted on 12/02/2004 9:33:18 PM PST by farmfriend ( In Essentials, Unity...In Non-Essentials, Liberty...In All Things, Charity.)
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To: wewereright
"In other words the free market cannot work because most local governments will not allow it to."

Local governments are totally at the mercy of small groups of militant agitators and their overly agressive litigators who get paid by the taxpayers for filing enviro/nogrowth litigation against the taxpayer's local government, whether they win, lose, or settle!

If you'd run for local office and serve just one term you would be shocked, stunned and flabergasted. Most of all, you would be very, very discouraged in most jurisdictions! I know. I've been there, done that!!!

17 posted on 12/02/2004 10:10:19 PM PST by SierraWasp (Ronald Reagan was an exceptional "celebrity!" Jesse Ventura & Arnold Schwarzenrenegger are NOT!!!)
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To: farmfriend

BTTT!!!!!!!!


18 posted on 12/03/2004 3:01:43 AM PST by E.G.C.
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To: wewereright
It is illegal in almost any community to build it becuase of antiquated zoning and development ordinances.

Or because of updated zoning that restricts subdividing undeveloped land. Here in Vermont we have "act 250" that makes it damn near impossible to build on less than 5 acres. This is supposed to keep developers from building on what used to be farmland (i.e. sprawl) The result, however, is that people have to push further and further away from the city (ok town, in Vermont)centers meaning sprawl is more widespread.

The law of unintended consequences.

19 posted on 12/03/2004 3:08:24 AM PST by Straight Vermonter (Liberalism: The irrational fear of self reliance.)
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To: Tribune7

Drexel Hill does have a fabulous, huge, baseball field complex off of Township Line Rd. :-)

They have one of the best youth baseball (and football) programs in the area. Whenever we beat UDHL or Upper Darby we're happy.


20 posted on 12/03/2004 6:41:19 AM PST by baseballmom (You Know Where I Stand - GW Bush - 9/2/04 We're standing with you, Mr. President)
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